L3Harris statement on the Nov. 13 ground stop

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slowin

For those unfamiliar with this company:

> In 2008, 72 Iraqi civilians sued L3 Services for human rights violations they had endured at Abu Ghraib and other prisons in Iraq, including "torture; cruel, inhuman, or degrading treatment; war crimes; assault and battery; sexual assault and battery; intentional infliction of emotional distress; negligent hiring and supervision; and negligent infliction of emotional distress." A settlement was reached on October 10, 2012, which was the "first positive resolution to a U.S. civil case challenging detainee treatment outside the United States in the larger 'war on terror' context".

> In 2012, L3 subsidiary KDI Precision Products participated in the sale of 11,500 JDAM bomb fuzes to Israel, part of a $647 million contract deal. These were among the weapons used by the IDF in the 2014 Gaza War; the U.N. High Commissioner for Human Rights highlighted the IDF's weapons usages, which included attacks on densely populated civilian areas, as constituting potential war crimes.

> In June 2022, Chris Kubasik succeeded as the Chair following Bill Brown's retirement. That same month it was reported to have held talks to purchase the Israeli company NSO, which builds Pegasus spyware. White House officials heard of the talks and voiced opposition, resulting in L3Harris discontinuing its plans.

> In October 2025, Israel entered into a memorandum of understanding with L3Harris to facilitate the acquisition of new light attack aircraft intended for border defense, aimed at developing the Israeli Sky Warden variant.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L3Harris

drewg123

Oh, these are defense contractors, that explains a lot about this non-statement.

I had thought the L3 was from Level 3 Communications and Harris, but its actually L3 Technologies which seems to be a holding company for defense contractors.

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bastard_op

Ahh, these frigging guys...

So I bought a Fortigate firewall on ebay some years back for a lab device, I password recovered it to break in and recover it, and it came up registered to them, and still under Enterprise license support for like 6mo. Great, that's exactly what I wanted for a lab device! I looked them up to see they were a defense contractor, ok, so more money than brains. I'll take advantage...

That 6mo came and went, and they renewed the support on it for another year, and my firewall saw the entitlement. Even better, I continued to use it. After 4 years finally the device went EOL/EOS and expired with no more support available, I was sad.

Obviously these guys are fsckheads, more money and contracts from friends in high places than brains. This totally explains why the air system melted down!

danso

> This website uses cookies and similar technologies, which we collectively refer to here as "cookies."[sic] L3Harris uses cookies to improve your experience on our website

Great first impression from a technical company

madeofpalk

I guess it’s technically a statement, even though it says nothing.

praet

> L3Harris takes the nationwide ground stop and its impact on travelers, airlines and air traffic operations seriously.

Thank goodness

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shermozle

By "modernizing" they mean making it equivalently fragile and flaky to such modern wonders as Github and Microsoft 363?

fallingmeat

personal perspective- L3X has repeatedly demonstrated a corporate culture of accountability allergy. spiderman meme was made for L3. I think it goes up and down the chain

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drooby

I'm glad they're taking this seriously

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