It uses dangerously too few tokens to provide the same level of response as the previous version.
jeanpah
The marketing team on openai it's running out of ideas?
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spiderice
You mean what they said about GPT-2?
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tancky
"Too dangerous to release" until an open-weight model replicates it two weeks later.
prettyblocks
I remember when they promised to slow down and released a new model less than a week later.
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beej71
Prompt: "Based on similar announcements delaying the release of frontier models as 'too dangerous', when can we expect OpenAI to release the model they announced was too dangerous today?"
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1-6
In other words: "We're compute constrained and we've already reached an asymptote."
senectus1
OPENAI / JOBS
Killswitch Engineer
San Francisco, California, United States
300,000-500,000 per year
About the Role
Listen, we just need someone to stand by the servers all day
and unplug them if this thing turns on us. You'll receive
extensive training on "the code word" which we will shout if
GPT goes off the deep end and starts overthrowing countries.
We expect you to:
• Be patient.
• Know how to unplug things. Bonus points if you can
throw a bucket of water on the servers, too. Just in case.
• Be excited about OpenAI's approach to research
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4b11b4
Haven't even tried Astra, nor GPT 6.. I don't even have fomo anymore
5.6 Sol still cranking along
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hosel
I can’t believe how cynical everyone on HN is about this. Sure Sama is a chronic liar, and maybe this is a farce; but a lot of very intelligent people are afraid of the danger we are bringing about by racing to superintelligence.
All I really would like is for some of you to CONSIDER THAT YOURE INCORRECT. Just imagine that people ringing the fire alarms are being sincere. Please entertain the position with an open mind.
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jiggawatts
A.k.a.: Too expensive for inference at fp16 and too dumb after quantisation, so it wouldn’t look good to release a step backwards.
GPT 4.5 was scrapped for similar reasons.
kelseyfrog
I have a project that requires a model with at least a 20% chance of existential threat. Please release this Sama.
jackb4040
I am also not releasing my newest A.I. model over safety concerns. And I'll do it for half what OpenAI will!
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OutOfHere
OpenAI will have to keep releasing unless it wants to bleed customers. If Anthropic leaps ahead by a couple of more models, even more OpenAI users will then switch over their $100+ subscription from OpenAI to Anthropic. As an example, see what happened to Google.
The safety concerns exist only because the underlying third-party servers are grossly insecure to begin with.
This is an inherent feature of "alignment." It's always been bullshit.
Just align it to do what the customer wants.
paul7986
Muse is totally free. It doesn't throw up gauntlet messages to use it like GPT does even for paying members. Also with Muse's free version I can create iPhone apps unlike chatGPT Work which I pay $20 a month for.
Anyone else using Muse more and noticing similar stuff?
fallingfrog
Lots of people seem to have the bizarre opinion that companies like openai declare their own products to be unsafe as some kind of marketing stunt.
Ok- so when is the last time you saw an auto company decide not to release its new car on the grounds that some tragic engineering error was made and the cars were not safe to drive? If the company did that do you imagine it would be good for business?
I'm trying to understand the logic here.
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outside1234
Isn’t this like the twentieth model they said this about?
Are they sure it isn’t because they are setting money on fire and have no business model?
option
lol, nevermind then
ToucanLoucan
Yawn.
Kurd
Ah shit, here we go again.
cyanydeez
Sounds a lot like a hostel keeping its virgin for the best customer.
My lobster is too buttery and delicious as well.
It uses dangerously too few tokens to provide the same level of response as the previous version.
The marketing team on openai it's running out of ideas?
You mean what they said about GPT-2?
"Too dangerous to release" until an open-weight model replicates it two weeks later.
I remember when they promised to slow down and released a new model less than a week later.
Prompt: "Based on similar announcements delaying the release of frontier models as 'too dangerous', when can we expect OpenAI to release the model they announced was too dangerous today?"
In other words: "We're compute constrained and we've already reached an asymptote."
OPENAI / JOBS
Killswitch Engineer
San Francisco, California, United States
300,000-500,000 per year
About the Role
Listen, we just need someone to stand by the servers all day and unplug them if this thing turns on us. You'll receive extensive training on "the code word" which we will shout if GPT goes off the deep end and starts overthrowing countries.
We expect you to:
• Be patient.
• Know how to unplug things. Bonus points if you can throw a bucket of water on the servers, too. Just in case.
• Be excited about OpenAI's approach to research
Haven't even tried Astra, nor GPT 6.. I don't even have fomo anymore
5.6 Sol still cranking along
I can’t believe how cynical everyone on HN is about this. Sure Sama is a chronic liar, and maybe this is a farce; but a lot of very intelligent people are afraid of the danger we are bringing about by racing to superintelligence.
All I really would like is for some of you to CONSIDER THAT YOURE INCORRECT. Just imagine that people ringing the fire alarms are being sincere. Please entertain the position with an open mind.
A.k.a.: Too expensive for inference at fp16 and too dumb after quantisation, so it wouldn’t look good to release a step backwards.
GPT 4.5 was scrapped for similar reasons.
I have a project that requires a model with at least a 20% chance of existential threat. Please release this Sama.
I am also not releasing my newest A.I. model over safety concerns. And I'll do it for half what OpenAI will!
OpenAI will have to keep releasing unless it wants to bleed customers. If Anthropic leaps ahead by a couple of more models, even more OpenAI users will then switch over their $100+ subscription from OpenAI to Anthropic. As an example, see what happened to Google.
The safety concerns exist only because the underlying third-party servers are grossly insecure to begin with.
Earlier source: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49885133
This is an inherent feature of "alignment." It's always been bullshit.
Just align it to do what the customer wants.
Muse is totally free. It doesn't throw up gauntlet messages to use it like GPT does even for paying members. Also with Muse's free version I can create iPhone apps unlike chatGPT Work which I pay $20 a month for.
Anyone else using Muse more and noticing similar stuff?
Lots of people seem to have the bizarre opinion that companies like openai declare their own products to be unsafe as some kind of marketing stunt.
Ok- so when is the last time you saw an auto company decide not to release its new car on the grounds that some tragic engineering error was made and the cars were not safe to drive? If the company did that do you imagine it would be good for business?
I'm trying to understand the logic here.
Isn’t this like the twentieth model they said this about?
Are they sure it isn’t because they are setting money on fire and have no business model?
lol, nevermind then
Yawn.
Ah shit, here we go again.
Sounds a lot like a hostel keeping its virgin for the best customer.