doesn't follow. You don't know that they didn't read it! Only that they didn't write it. If the point of things like this is to be careful, then be careful.
How many times have people written this exact same rant now? This is honestly getting more annoying than the AI generated content.
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beebmam
I have my AI agents read documents on my behalf and then ask them questions. Whether those documents are written by humans or not.
doginasuit
It is hard to know what is getting more tiresome, AI writing or complaining about AI writing. We get it, we feel the same way.
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gcoakes
I used to feel this way, but now, I want more people to send me AI slop because I'm tired of human slop. I am tired of parsing through two word git commits where the author didn't care enough to tell Claude to write the commit message for them. Sure, I would prefer to read your personal thoughts on the change, but if the choice is between no meaningful information and an agent's mostly coherent if a bit verbose description, I'll take the AI.
The same goes for AI generated code. I've seen some code that I'm pretty sure would have been better quality if my 90 year old grandma was steering Claude. The standard that I want to hold myself is derived from the open source world like SQLite. Sadly, some people just want to take the minimal path to ticket completion without regard for future maintenance or pride in their work. At least AI is token predicting off the code bases that I admire.
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guessmyname
Why TAI-DR instead of TMAI;DR (pronounced “tee-my; dee-ar”) ?
As in “Too Much AI; Didn’t Read”.
gruntled-worker
Too Bandwagony; Didn't Bother
montroser
> a boundary, not an acronym problem
The irony...
bit-rot
Not the startup-themed website featuring logins and calls to action…
anonymouscaller
Well.. don't think I'll be reading because the site is AI
phyalow
I prefer the simpler “aidr”
Havoc
Really don't like the weird grey yellow sites...they're just ugly
pelagicAustral
There has been an ancient form of slop that the highest form of authority has read for hundreds of years, and its a presidential brief... The President doesn't reads all the stuff that goes on, he doesn't know, he is handled the a slopified version of reality. Now the presidential briefing is at everyone's hand.
rollinDyno
I understand the sensation of disgust when being offered to read a piece of AI slop. However, I'm actually curious about how our sensitivity towards slop will evolve. I imagine people will have varying degrees of tolerance.
Afterall, AI slop doesn't necessarily mean the prompter didn't read. It just means they're OK with the AI phrasing. It's also possible that they read the output and had the AI update with whatever edits they prompted.
Writing this comment makes me more convinced that if us users of AI want our written work to be taken seriously, then we should also share our prompts. I hope we quickly converge into a standard way of sharing the prompts that generated a given product.
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RomanKornev
All the visually noisy parts really don't help it get the point across. More like the opposite.
Reminds me of my own manifesto, which I've written since getting sick of dealing with the hype and gatekeeping machine that surrounds AI based development right now.
Need a "website is Claudish; skipping to next" one-pager.
Do they really not understand that their website uses the most definitive form of design slop?
4lx87
Most people at my work don't think I'm using AI simply because I instruct it to never use more than two sentences of max 10-15 words each.
seki285
I'm not reading any slop, period.
cckolon
Ironic that this itself is an obvious slop site
kkotak
AI Slop; Didn't Bother
AS;DB
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johongo
Random text in many random places is quintessential slop
maxlin
What I mostly find issue is with people pushing incorrect, buggy, and low skill human work when AI would do the work better. It's sad to see oldschool pros clutching to their pearls; These days I often find myself trying to push them to do something that AI _can't_ do as well, instead of forcing a comparison.
Care about people but always through caring about the product and making people capable of earning their dignity.
lemontheme
If it’s not worth writing, it’s not worth reading.
That said, wouldn’t it be funny if this site, too, were AI generated?
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wxw
This website is ironically too AI to read.
bb-connor
the irony here is that this entire website is dripping with AI design slop
edit: didn't realize i verbatim repeated what everyone else said
The first comment with "ai;dr", according to https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=5&prefix=true&que... is by user 'madcaptenor' from 11 months ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45722069#45725169
While I agree with the sentiment, this:
If you couldn't bother to read it, why should I?
doesn't follow. You don't know that they didn't read it! Only that they didn't write it. If the point of things like this is to be careful, then be careful.
Ironic that this site is AI-generated
AI written, AI read
https://marketoonist.com/2023/03/ai-written-ai-read.html
TAI;DR.
I think maybe just AI;DR...?
How many times have people written this exact same rant now? This is honestly getting more annoying than the AI generated content.
I have my AI agents read documents on my behalf and then ask them questions. Whether those documents are written by humans or not.
It is hard to know what is getting more tiresome, AI writing or complaining about AI writing. We get it, we feel the same way.
I used to feel this way, but now, I want more people to send me AI slop because I'm tired of human slop. I am tired of parsing through two word git commits where the author didn't care enough to tell Claude to write the commit message for them. Sure, I would prefer to read your personal thoughts on the change, but if the choice is between no meaningful information and an agent's mostly coherent if a bit verbose description, I'll take the AI.
The same goes for AI generated code. I've seen some code that I'm pretty sure would have been better quality if my 90 year old grandma was steering Claude. The standard that I want to hold myself is derived from the open source world like SQLite. Sadly, some people just want to take the minimal path to ticket completion without regard for future maintenance or pride in their work. At least AI is token predicting off the code bases that I admire.
Why TAI-DR instead of TMAI;DR (pronounced “tee-my; dee-ar”) ?
As in “Too Much AI; Didn’t Read”.
Too Bandwagony; Didn't Bother
> a boundary, not an acronym problem
The irony...
Not the startup-themed website featuring logins and calls to action…
Well.. don't think I'll be reading because the site is AI
I prefer the simpler “aidr”
Really don't like the weird grey yellow sites...they're just ugly
There has been an ancient form of slop that the highest form of authority has read for hundreds of years, and its a presidential brief... The President doesn't reads all the stuff that goes on, he doesn't know, he is handled the a slopified version of reality. Now the presidential briefing is at everyone's hand.
I understand the sensation of disgust when being offered to read a piece of AI slop. However, I'm actually curious about how our sensitivity towards slop will evolve. I imagine people will have varying degrees of tolerance.
Afterall, AI slop doesn't necessarily mean the prompter didn't read. It just means they're OK with the AI phrasing. It's also possible that they read the output and had the AI update with whatever edits they prompted.
Writing this comment makes me more convinced that if us users of AI want our written work to be taken seriously, then we should also share our prompts. I hope we quickly converge into a standard way of sharing the prompts that generated a given product.
All the visually noisy parts really don't help it get the point across. More like the opposite.
It should be line https://motherfuckingwebsite.com/
Really cool!
Reminds me of my own manifesto, which I've written since getting sick of dealing with the hype and gatekeeping machine that surrounds AI based development right now.
https://www.just-prompt-motherfucker.com/
Need a "website is Claudish; skipping to next" one-pager.
Do they really not understand that their website uses the most definitive form of design slop?
Most people at my work don't think I'm using AI simply because I instruct it to never use more than two sentences of max 10-15 words each.
I'm not reading any slop, period.
Ironic that this itself is an obvious slop site
AI Slop; Didn't Bother AS;DB
Random text in many random places is quintessential slop
What I mostly find issue is with people pushing incorrect, buggy, and low skill human work when AI would do the work better. It's sad to see oldschool pros clutching to their pearls; These days I often find myself trying to push them to do something that AI _can't_ do as well, instead of forcing a comparison.
Care about people but always through caring about the product and making people capable of earning their dignity.
If it’s not worth writing, it’s not worth reading.
That said, wouldn’t it be funny if this site, too, were AI generated?
This website is ironically too AI to read.
the irony here is that this entire website is dripping with AI design slop
edit: didn't realize i verbatim repeated what everyone else said