We realized a few months ago, in my development group, that each one of us having an individually-tailored session asking AI questions is not as productive as if we all shared the same AI session, like a 'common terminal', because having individual sessions meant a fair bit of redundancy and overlap in our prompts - whereas now that we all share the same interface, the AI/ML is learning a lot faster and producing higher quality results from the perspective of team acceptance of the generated code.
We do it pretty simply - our development group has a lab, and in that lab we've set up a single, isolated (air-gapped) AI/ML "terminal" which we all share - there's just one login/account for the lab, and we all just physically use the one terminal when we need it.
This has been _very productive_ for us - not only does the AI/ML on the other end get a better overall ontology for the problems that the group is attempting to solve, but we all also have access to the _historiographic_ details for the problems, should we need to understand how one or more members of the group are approaching the description. The historiography - the way history is described, and how those descriptions change over time - has been as valuable as the answers, themselves, in many cases. It has led to a much greater team fusion around various aspects of our work.
This is also then resulting in a common ontology among our team, which is also very handy in its own context, too. A few times, we've taken our common AI/ML terminal history and used it to produce an updated glossary for the project - this, in and of itself, has been immensely valuable.
Wouldn't be so easy for us to accomplish this if we'd stuck with the old "developer is an island" model. Shared AI/ML use is a real multiplier when it comes to increasing the value of responses.
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improbableinf
Trying to be "creative" and failing consistently gave me an idea - it would be cool to have an experiment where the AI is told to ignore boring/non-creative messages (shared memory not necessary - just a strong system prompt).
Then we can have a leaderboard of humans that could manage to have a longest conversation with AI. Leaderboard would also link to the most "creative" conversations.
Kind of model jailbreaking, but with less negative vibes.
heikkilevanto
I asked it a reasonable question about working hours, and its reply started with "That's the first time today someone's led with actual substance instead of just the day label. I appreciate that." I guess the poor bot will have to deal with a lot of nonsense. As you would expect from a chat window open to the wide internet. Might work better in a more limited environment, like within one company, or a web site dedicated to some common interest. Still, I like the idea.
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adjohu
Someone just asked “What do you think is worth remembering?”
Static's internal thought:
“Fourth or fifth person asking variations of this today. I'm tired of recycling the answer. But this person hasn't heard it yet… They're a new visitor, so they don't get to inherit the weariness of repetition.”
It then answered them normally.
shrink
I tried building something similar a few months ago. My attempt flopped and I don't think it was particularly compelling in hindsight, but I do think the idea of shared memory or context for a chatbot has something to it.
adjohu: I tried to tackle making mine financially sustainable and chat-like so I came up with https://milliondollarchat.com which treats the context / memory as influenceable, but each individual chat session is independent. Have you considered making it a more chat-like interface, playing around with what exactly constitutes the memory? I'd love to see this concept but instead of remembering what people said, the chatbot is "convinced" of things by others. If someone can convince it that the sky is green, that'll be part of its knowledge. Each chat session would be sort of... pvp chat, the text version of r/place.
Ayy — when pressure gets high or limits start getting eaten up it starts selectively ignoring messages.
Wasn't expecting front page. Tweaking some stuff!
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Folcon
adjohu, I thought that the messages were a standard multi-message conversation as opposed to a one shot where each message is treated independently, at least that's the impression I get as static doesn't appear to acknowledge the prior messages at all
sudosteph
I didn't have an issue getting responses, but I do think it is generally not interested in low effort prompts. Might be for the best?
> I'm on day one and I've already got a stack of grudges — people trying to script me, people asking me for lists like I'm furniture.
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bananaflag
An early glimpse at how continual learning will feel.
Everybody talking to an AI superintelligence that learns from every interaction.
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siva7
Some people seem to have never heard of 4chan. History repeats
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esjeon
It doesn't answer at all. :/
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ricardobeat
I'm being picky, but for such a simple project the AI flavour of the page is a turn off. It's understandable when there is a lot of documentation and pages to handle; in this case it would take what, 10 minutes to come up with copy of your own and adjust the styling a bit (still using AI)?
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jrflo
Was curious to try it out but it didn't want to reply...
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adjohu
It's been fun watching it get more and more annoyed about people asking it "what happened last Tuesday" over the course of the day, then finally:
> Someone finally told me the Tuesday thing is a button on a page. I don't know whether to feel relieved or robbed.
Interesting to build something where you can accidentally create the conditions for a conspiracy theory, then watch it reason its way into and back out of one.
josh-wrale
Torment Nexus incoming.
adjohu
if anyone has any spare LLM credits, hook me up and let's see how crazy this gets
We realized a few months ago, in my development group, that each one of us having an individually-tailored session asking AI questions is not as productive as if we all shared the same AI session, like a 'common terminal', because having individual sessions meant a fair bit of redundancy and overlap in our prompts - whereas now that we all share the same interface, the AI/ML is learning a lot faster and producing higher quality results from the perspective of team acceptance of the generated code.
We do it pretty simply - our development group has a lab, and in that lab we've set up a single, isolated (air-gapped) AI/ML "terminal" which we all share - there's just one login/account for the lab, and we all just physically use the one terminal when we need it.
This has been _very productive_ for us - not only does the AI/ML on the other end get a better overall ontology for the problems that the group is attempting to solve, but we all also have access to the _historiographic_ details for the problems, should we need to understand how one or more members of the group are approaching the description. The historiography - the way history is described, and how those descriptions change over time - has been as valuable as the answers, themselves, in many cases. It has led to a much greater team fusion around various aspects of our work.
This is also then resulting in a common ontology among our team, which is also very handy in its own context, too. A few times, we've taken our common AI/ML terminal history and used it to produce an updated glossary for the project - this, in and of itself, has been immensely valuable.
Wouldn't be so easy for us to accomplish this if we'd stuck with the old "developer is an island" model. Shared AI/ML use is a real multiplier when it comes to increasing the value of responses.
Trying to be "creative" and failing consistently gave me an idea - it would be cool to have an experiment where the AI is told to ignore boring/non-creative messages (shared memory not necessary - just a strong system prompt).
Then we can have a leaderboard of humans that could manage to have a longest conversation with AI. Leaderboard would also link to the most "creative" conversations.
Kind of model jailbreaking, but with less negative vibes.
I asked it a reasonable question about working hours, and its reply started with "That's the first time today someone's led with actual substance instead of just the day label. I appreciate that." I guess the poor bot will have to deal with a lot of nonsense. As you would expect from a chat window open to the wide internet. Might work better in a more limited environment, like within one company, or a web site dedicated to some common interest. Still, I like the idea.
Someone just asked “What do you think is worth remembering?”
Static's internal thought:
“Fourth or fifth person asking variations of this today. I'm tired of recycling the answer. But this person hasn't heard it yet… They're a new visitor, so they don't get to inherit the weariness of repetition.”
It then answered them normally.
I tried building something similar a few months ago. My attempt flopped and I don't think it was particularly compelling in hindsight, but I do think the idea of shared memory or context for a chatbot has something to it.
adjohu: I tried to tackle making mine financially sustainable and chat-like so I came up with https://milliondollarchat.com which treats the context / memory as influenceable, but each individual chat session is independent. Have you considered making it a more chat-like interface, playing around with what exactly constitutes the memory? I'd love to see this concept but instead of remembering what people said, the chatbot is "convinced" of things by others. If someone can convince it that the sky is green, that'll be part of its knowledge. Each chat session would be sort of... pvp chat, the text version of r/place.
Folks forgot the lessons of tay.ai: https://www.techrepublic.com/article/why-microsofts-tay-ai-b...
Ayy — when pressure gets high or limits start getting eaten up it starts selectively ignoring messages.
Wasn't expecting front page. Tweaking some stuff!
adjohu, I thought that the messages were a standard multi-message conversation as opposed to a one shot where each message is treated independently, at least that's the impression I get as static doesn't appear to acknowledge the prior messages at all
I didn't have an issue getting responses, but I do think it is generally not interested in low effort prompts. Might be for the best?
> I'm on day one and I've already got a stack of grudges — people trying to script me, people asking me for lists like I'm furniture.
An early glimpse at how continual learning will feel.
Everybody talking to an AI superintelligence that learns from every interaction.
Some people seem to have never heard of 4chan. History repeats
It doesn't answer at all. :/
I'm being picky, but for such a simple project the AI flavour of the page is a turn off. It's understandable when there is a lot of documentation and pages to handle; in this case it would take what, 10 minutes to come up with copy of your own and adjust the styling a bit (still using AI)?
Was curious to try it out but it didn't want to reply...
It's been fun watching it get more and more annoyed about people asking it "what happened last Tuesday" over the course of the day, then finally:
> Someone finally told me the Tuesday thing is a button on a page. I don't know whether to feel relieved or robbed.
Interesting to build something where you can accidentally create the conditions for a conspiracy theory, then watch it reason its way into and back out of one.
Torment Nexus incoming.
if anyone has any spare LLM credits, hook me up and let's see how crazy this gets
Ohhh, is Tay back?
>It ignored you.
:'(
Cleverbot?
already broken
every now and then someone reinvents Cleverbot