Congrats Sonali, Nick, Dave & everyone else! I had an incredible time with you all in NY more than 10 years ago, it was so cool, and I'm still thinking of it very fondly. Spent my days hacking away in the space near Canal Street and the nights and weekends exploring NYC with other Recursers, visiting museums, parks and venturing out to buy cheap dumplings by the dozen. I was quite poor back then but I enjoyed my life so much, had a tiny room at the Kolping house on the Upper East Side which was very run down and tiny but also very cheap, basically just went there for sleeping and spent every other minute in the space and outside. No distractions, no possessions beyond my laptop, no responsibilities, simple but happy times. And then in 2021 I found my dream job at DuckDuckGo through RC, been working there for almost five years now! Thanks for everything and great to see it's still going strong!
mnky9800n
I loved my time at RC. It changed me a lot. I wrote several blog posts about different projects and my time during my batch. I would strongly suggest applying if you like computers and want to talk about them constantly while building cool stuff.
At first i found odd that pricing is nowhere in the website, but then i found it burried under FAQ (free!) - is it to weed out people who are focusing on free rather than going deeper into the experience?
> How much does attending the Recurse Center cost?
> RC is free for everyone. You will never receive a bill from RC.
> How can you afford to make RC free?
> RC has a built in recruiting agency. Companies pay to hire RC alumni. This payment never comes out of your salary.
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andrew_eu
I like the definition of social rules [0]. I also wonder whether the roof rule was written preemptively or retrospectively -- I hope the former.
I have my own thanks to give to HN. It's connected me to interesting people, online and IRL. It's led to some very strong friendships. It's led me to multiple job opportunities, and usually the better ones. It's changing of course, but I've had a great time in this community so far, and that deserves thanks.
My time at RC has genuinely changed my life. I joined my first batch expecting to dust some rust off after being in management at my last gig, and found a community I will cherish for the rest of my life!
If you looking for community in tech I can't think of a better place.
To 15 more!
hack1312
I really like this idea, but I’m not clear how the logistics work out. It’s “free” but 1.5 - 3 months in NYC is not cheap and would mean carrying double rent for that period of time on top of living expenses. Is there financial assistance or are participants expected to cover all of their own costs? If so doesn’t that make this only accessible to those quite well off already? That is, those who can afford to take off 1.5-3 months while covering the cost of living in one of the most expensive cities in the world. I see there’s a remote option but the in-person aspect of this really feels key to the experience.
Really not trying to be a spoil sport because the idea is incredible and worthwhile but I couldn’t find the answers looking at your website.
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tracerbulletx
Hadn't heard of this before but its a cool idea. I often take my own little "programming retreats" and go to another city for a week and work out of a nice coworking space for a sense of focus and engagement with my work.
EagleEdge
This sentence "And 15 years on I still wake up every day excited to keep working on it." stuck with me. Wow, that is true passion on what you do.
maxmynter95
Thanks Nick and Sonali (and Dave, though I didn’t meet you),
I did RC last year and it was easily one of the Most influential periods of my life!
I can‘t find words to do my gratitude justice for the work you‘re doing.
Best wishes and Happy Birthday RC
— max, Sp2 25
dgellow
I had the chance to work with a bunch of Recurse alumni over the past 4 years, they have all been amazing, brilliant engineers and overall great people :)
voidsnax
While I'm still waiting for the right moment in my own life to do my own Recurse Center retreat, I have had the pleasure of hiring and working with several RC alums over the years and in every instance have found them to be high-quality developers and interesting people to boot. Big congrats to RC for 15 years!
pietroppeter
Congrats! I had a great time doing a batch remotely from Italy (2.5 years ago), there is a lot of investment in making sure the remote experience is great and it shows!
NetOpWibby
I wish something like Recurse existed in Cupertino, I've always admired the program. Congrats on this milestone, most HN alumni don't make it past a decade.
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saulpw
RC is a great community and I will be forever grateful to them for introducing me to several good friends that are still in my life 10 years later.
namanyayg
Thanks for making Recurse so awesome Nick, and it was great running into you at demo day.
I learned so much and made great friends at my six weeks in Brooklyn.
Without Recurse Center I probably wouldn't have made it into YC with a startup of my own today. Long live RC!
anonu
First off, congrats. This sounds incredibly fulfilling on many levels.
Second, I'm curious how your business changes with AI coding tools. I would wager humans will seek out your offering in greater numbers.
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shepherdjerred
Ah! I so wanted to go to the recurse center when I was between jobs, but I was too nervous to push my start date back a significant amount. I really hope I can do it one day. It sounds so awesome!
solomonb
Thank you for creating Recurse! I had an incredible experience at RC in 2019. I still have friends from my batch.
I deeply wish I had time to do it again.
vnce
I just love that this exists. Learning about it for the first time here, it was such a joy reading the website, watching the videos and understanding the school’s philosophy. Even how they define what a successful applicant looks like, and commitment to diversity brought a smile to my face. Maybe one day…
Abishek_Muthian
Can you tell us what why "OkCupid for jobs" failed?
I run a problem validation platform and 'OkCupid for jobs'[1] is consistently the most visited need-gap in the platform.
Congratulations on 15 years! Recurse Center has had an incredible impact on the programming community. Thanks for investing in people instead of just chasing growth. Here's to many more years!
atherton94027
Congrats! I'd be curious to hear what changed (and what didn't) with applicants over the last 15 years.
I feel like the programming community is very different than in the early 2010s – when's the last time you've seen a coworker brag about using vim – but I can't really put my finger on what changed exactly.
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FanaHOVA
Congrats!! I remember growing up in Italy and really really wanting to attend Hacker School but couldn’t afford to. It resonated a lot with me and make me want to keep learning; I am sure you are still having that impact on others today, it’s great to see it’s still around!
joao
Congratulations! From time to time I visit your website and consider applying when between jobs but never did. Might try this year :)
jagged-chisel
I’m not sure I understand Recurse. Self-directed self-improvement. “Attending remotely” is even more self-directed.
Ok, so Recurse is providing accountability partners or something similar?
How is Recurse making money? I don’t see a pricing or tuition page.
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guessmyname
I attended a Recurse Center batch, and while I understand that others had amazing experiences, mine was quite bland.
I can't blame anyone but myself for this.
Most of the other attendees were intelligent or highly self-motivated, or both. Many people seemed to connect instantly, forming small work groups, sharing project ideas, and even going out for lunch or dinner together. They were constantly talking about how awesome Zulip was (is?) [*] and engaged in a constant stick-measuring contest to see whose weekly project would make it to Hacker News’ top 30. At times, it felt like I had joined some sort of mini-cult. I know it wasn’t like that at all; it was just the visuals from an outsider in a completely different culture. As far as I can remember, people were very friendly, willing to help others whenever they were stuck, and happy to study and tackle challenging problems together. There were lots of learnings floating around the working space. Sadly, it didn’t work for me at all, and years later, I still don’t know why exactly.
Perhaps it was the fast pace of New York City and SoHo itself? Or the rudeness of passersby, especially the police officers who couldn’t be bothered even if I just wanted to ask for directions? Or the dirtiness of the streets? The constant noise from cars honking all the time? The strange people in the Subway? The ubiquitous unhealthy food at every corner? Healthy food was difficult to find, at least for someone new to the city, and when accessible, it was unaffordable. Multiple times, I found myself working in the Recurse Center workspace with an empty stomach, which obviously exacerbated the bad experiences, but I can’t even complain about that because they often had free pizza (once, twice a week?) but obviously, pizza is unhealthy, so I never accepted.
Overall, I had a very bad experience, but I believe nothing was Recurse Center’s fault; it was mine. I’m not entirely sure what I expected when I joined, but I hope this serves as a warning to future attendees to prepare themselves before joining, especially if you are not familiar with American culture, and particularly with New York.
[*] https://zulip.com(years later, I still don’t understand why people love Zulip so much)
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kuanbutts
Thanks RC! I went back when it was Hacker School! Grateful that period of my life - grew so much!
pm90
Some of the best engineers I worked at got their start in programming at the recurse center... thank you for the good you've done in this world!
knuckleheads
Congrats! I very much enjoyed my time at Recurse Center back when it was Hacker School and idly daydream about returning some time. Thanks for making something so great!
zallarak
You guys changed many lives including my own.
wxw
Recurse is an incredible community. Thanks for everything you’ve done for the NYC and broader tech ecosystem!
shykes
Congrats from a fellow YCS10 founder :)
hahahaa
Will you consider franchising or expanding to other countries?
kaikai
I’m really grateful for the time I spent at the recurse center! Thank you for all the work that goes into making such a special community.
inferhaven
Love to see someone having success and fulfilling their dreams, congratz!
thierrydamiba
Awesome story, thanks for sharing!
bubulovegod
congratulation! i first time know this. and i am curious what RC is like for remote participant? also, i would like to apply!
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jdorfman
HN wouldn’t be HN without Dang. Thank you Dang.
Uptrenda
Never heard of recurse before but what a charming idea. Seems like you've found something amazing to do in life. Wholesome posts like OP are much welcome in tech. Updooted.
imantaba
Congrats
j45
Congrats, helping people improve their lives and for their loved ones has its own return.
Congrats Sonali, Nick, Dave & everyone else! I had an incredible time with you all in NY more than 10 years ago, it was so cool, and I'm still thinking of it very fondly. Spent my days hacking away in the space near Canal Street and the nights and weekends exploring NYC with other Recursers, visiting museums, parks and venturing out to buy cheap dumplings by the dozen. I was quite poor back then but I enjoyed my life so much, had a tiny room at the Kolping house on the Upper East Side which was very run down and tiny but also very cheap, basically just went there for sleeping and spent every other minute in the space and outside. No distractions, no possessions beyond my laptop, no responsibilities, simple but happy times. And then in 2021 I found my dream job at DuckDuckGo through RC, been working there for almost five years now! Thanks for everything and great to see it's still going strong!
I loved my time at RC. It changed me a lot. I wrote several blog posts about different projects and my time during my batch. I would strongly suggest applying if you like computers and want to talk about them constantly while building cool stuff.
https://www.lowimpactfruit.com/p/rainy-citycom-a-side-projec...
https://www.lowimpactfruit.com/p/zork-bench-an-llm-reasoning...
https://www.lowimpactfruit.com/p/my-return-statement
At first i found odd that pricing is nowhere in the website, but then i found it burried under FAQ (free!) - is it to weed out people who are focusing on free rather than going deeper into the experience?
> How much does attending the Recurse Center cost? > RC is free for everyone. You will never receive a bill from RC.
> How can you afford to make RC free? > RC has a built in recruiting agency. Companies pay to hire RC alumni. This payment never comes out of your salary.
I like the definition of social rules [0]. I also wonder whether the roof rule was written preemptively or retrospectively -- I hope the former.
I have my own thanks to give to HN. It's connected me to interesting people, online and IRL. It's led to some very strong friendships. It's led me to multiple job opportunities, and usually the better ones. It's changing of course, but I've had a great time in this community so far, and that deserves thanks.
0: https://www.recurse.com/social-rules
My time at RC has genuinely changed my life. I joined my first batch expecting to dust some rust off after being in management at my last gig, and found a community I will cherish for the rest of my life!
If you looking for community in tech I can't think of a better place.
To 15 more!
I really like this idea, but I’m not clear how the logistics work out. It’s “free” but 1.5 - 3 months in NYC is not cheap and would mean carrying double rent for that period of time on top of living expenses. Is there financial assistance or are participants expected to cover all of their own costs? If so doesn’t that make this only accessible to those quite well off already? That is, those who can afford to take off 1.5-3 months while covering the cost of living in one of the most expensive cities in the world. I see there’s a remote option but the in-person aspect of this really feels key to the experience.
Really not trying to be a spoil sport because the idea is incredible and worthwhile but I couldn’t find the answers looking at your website.
Hadn't heard of this before but its a cool idea. I often take my own little "programming retreats" and go to another city for a week and work out of a nice coworking space for a sense of focus and engagement with my work.
This sentence "And 15 years on I still wake up every day excited to keep working on it." stuck with me. Wow, that is true passion on what you do.
Thanks Nick and Sonali (and Dave, though I didn’t meet you),
I did RC last year and it was easily one of the Most influential periods of my life! I can‘t find words to do my gratitude justice for the work you‘re doing.
Best wishes and Happy Birthday RC
— max, Sp2 25
I had the chance to work with a bunch of Recurse alumni over the past 4 years, they have all been amazing, brilliant engineers and overall great people :)
While I'm still waiting for the right moment in my own life to do my own Recurse Center retreat, I have had the pleasure of hiring and working with several RC alums over the years and in every instance have found them to be high-quality developers and interesting people to boot. Big congrats to RC for 15 years!
Congrats! I had a great time doing a batch remotely from Italy (2.5 years ago), there is a lot of investment in making sure the remote experience is great and it shows!
I wish something like Recurse existed in Cupertino, I've always admired the program. Congrats on this milestone, most HN alumni don't make it past a decade.
RC is a great community and I will be forever grateful to them for introducing me to several good friends that are still in my life 10 years later.
Thanks for making Recurse so awesome Nick, and it was great running into you at demo day.
I learned so much and made great friends at my six weeks in Brooklyn.
Without Recurse Center I probably wouldn't have made it into YC with a startup of my own today. Long live RC!
First off, congrats. This sounds incredibly fulfilling on many levels.
Second, I'm curious how your business changes with AI coding tools. I would wager humans will seek out your offering in greater numbers.
Ah! I so wanted to go to the recurse center when I was between jobs, but I was too nervous to push my start date back a significant amount. I really hope I can do it one day. It sounds so awesome!
Thank you for creating Recurse! I had an incredible experience at RC in 2019. I still have friends from my batch.
I deeply wish I had time to do it again.
I just love that this exists. Learning about it for the first time here, it was such a joy reading the website, watching the videos and understanding the school’s philosophy. Even how they define what a successful applicant looks like, and commitment to diversity brought a smile to my face. Maybe one day…
Can you tell us what why "OkCupid for jobs" failed?
I run a problem validation platform and 'OkCupid for jobs'[1] is consistently the most visited need-gap in the platform.
Congratulations on 15 years of Recurse Center!
[1] https://needgap.com/problems/363?gift=Z2lmdHwzNjN8MTc4NDQ1Mz... (gift pass link valid for 24 hours).
Congratulations on 15 years! Recurse Center has had an incredible impact on the programming community. Thanks for investing in people instead of just chasing growth. Here's to many more years!
Congrats! I'd be curious to hear what changed (and what didn't) with applicants over the last 15 years.
I feel like the programming community is very different than in the early 2010s – when's the last time you've seen a coworker brag about using vim – but I can't really put my finger on what changed exactly.
Congrats!! I remember growing up in Italy and really really wanting to attend Hacker School but couldn’t afford to. It resonated a lot with me and make me want to keep learning; I am sure you are still having that impact on others today, it’s great to see it’s still around!
Congratulations! From time to time I visit your website and consider applying when between jobs but never did. Might try this year :)
I’m not sure I understand Recurse. Self-directed self-improvement. “Attending remotely” is even more self-directed.
Ok, so Recurse is providing accountability partners or something similar?
How is Recurse making money? I don’t see a pricing or tuition page.
I attended a Recurse Center batch, and while I understand that others had amazing experiences, mine was quite bland.
I can't blame anyone but myself for this.
Most of the other attendees were intelligent or highly self-motivated, or both. Many people seemed to connect instantly, forming small work groups, sharing project ideas, and even going out for lunch or dinner together. They were constantly talking about how awesome Zulip was (is?) [*] and engaged in a constant stick-measuring contest to see whose weekly project would make it to Hacker News’ top 30. At times, it felt like I had joined some sort of mini-cult. I know it wasn’t like that at all; it was just the visuals from an outsider in a completely different culture. As far as I can remember, people were very friendly, willing to help others whenever they were stuck, and happy to study and tackle challenging problems together. There were lots of learnings floating around the working space. Sadly, it didn’t work for me at all, and years later, I still don’t know why exactly.
Perhaps it was the fast pace of New York City and SoHo itself? Or the rudeness of passersby, especially the police officers who couldn’t be bothered even if I just wanted to ask for directions? Or the dirtiness of the streets? The constant noise from cars honking all the time? The strange people in the Subway? The ubiquitous unhealthy food at every corner? Healthy food was difficult to find, at least for someone new to the city, and when accessible, it was unaffordable. Multiple times, I found myself working in the Recurse Center workspace with an empty stomach, which obviously exacerbated the bad experiences, but I can’t even complain about that because they often had free pizza (once, twice a week?) but obviously, pizza is unhealthy, so I never accepted.
Overall, I had a very bad experience, but I believe nothing was Recurse Center’s fault; it was mine. I’m not entirely sure what I expected when I joined, but I hope this serves as a warning to future attendees to prepare themselves before joining, especially if you are not familiar with American culture, and particularly with New York.
[*] https://zulip.com (years later, I still don’t understand why people love Zulip so much)
Thanks RC! I went back when it was Hacker School! Grateful that period of my life - grew so much!
Some of the best engineers I worked at got their start in programming at the recurse center... thank you for the good you've done in this world!
Congrats! I very much enjoyed my time at Recurse Center back when it was Hacker School and idly daydream about returning some time. Thanks for making something so great!
You guys changed many lives including my own.
Recurse is an incredible community. Thanks for everything you’ve done for the NYC and broader tech ecosystem!
Congrats from a fellow YCS10 founder :)
Will you consider franchising or expanding to other countries?
I’m really grateful for the time I spent at the recurse center! Thank you for all the work that goes into making such a special community.
Love to see someone having success and fulfilling their dreams, congratz!
Awesome story, thanks for sharing!
congratulation! i first time know this. and i am curious what RC is like for remote participant? also, i would like to apply!
HN wouldn’t be HN without Dang. Thank you Dang.
Never heard of recurse before but what a charming idea. Seems like you've found something amazing to do in life. Wholesome posts like OP are much welcome in tech. Updooted.
Congrats
Congrats, helping people improve their lives and for their loved ones has its own return.
ur welcome