digitaltrees

I am migrating my company to private open source AI and building custom tooling, orchestration, an IDE and harness around it. The commercial labs have show it’s far too risky to build on top of them.

With the labs moving into the app layer every interaction with the API related to product development or innovation is data they will steal and use to compete against you by adding those features to their everything apps. No one would hire a knowledge firm (law firm, accountants, management consultants) if they could steal your information and give it to your competitors. Their actions have remained me that we can’t tolerate that with AI systems.

With spaceX buying cursor and Google buying windsurf, and gathering all the developer interaction as training data, there is too much risk that development process itself will be rug pulled.

nlh

Here's a copy of the letter that Commerce sent to Anthropic (note who it'a NOT addressed to...)

Source: https://x.com/AndrewCurran_/status/2072103733715194048?s=20

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June 30, 2026

Tom Brown Chief Compute Officer Anthropic 548 Market Street San Francisco, CA 94104

Dear Mr. Brown:

Since the issuance of my previous letters, dated June 12, 2026 and June 26, 2026, Anthropic has taken steps in close coordination with the U.S. government to address the risks associated with Claude Mythos 5 and Claude Fable 5. Among other things, Anthropic has agreed to proactively detect and address security risks associated with the models; to work diligently with the U.S. government on protocols and standards and releases for Mythos, Fable, and future models; and to inform the U.S. government of any malicious activity.

In light of these actions and commitments, as well as the Bureau of Industry and Security's evaluation of the diversion risks now presented by Claude Mythos 5 and Claude Fable 5, the controls in the June 12 letter are withdrawn. A license is no longer required for the export, reexport, or in-country transfer, including deemed export or deemed reexport, of the Mythos or Fable models.

Commerce reserves the right to reevaluate the decisions made in this letter and the necessity of reimposing a license requirement, should circumstances change or should Anthropic fail to adhere to its commitments.

If you have any questions about this letter, please contact me or the Under Secretary of Commerce for Industry and Security, Jeffrey Kessler, at (202) 255-1864.

Sincerely,

Howard W. Lutnick

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softwaredoug

The real problem in all this is lack of predictability. The White House is just making it up as it goes along. Investors, customers don’t know what the process is and can’t plan.

In the end, we need actual laws that tell the market what kinds of models get paused / analyzed, how long that pause can be, etc.

Otherwise there’s no standard and it will be easily abused and prevent investment in US AI companies.

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bluepeter

Fable 5 apparently can't be used for coding? (This is from Anthropic's announcement.)

> After a series of productive conversations with the US government, we're redeploying the model with a new set of classifiers to target and block more cybersecurity tasks. In the near term, some routine tasks like coding and debugging will fall back to Opus 4.8.

Edit: the above was from their tweet announcement at https://x.com/AnthropicAI/status/2072163884430229756 ... the associated blog post at https://www.anthropic.com/news/redeploying-fable-5 suggests it was just poorly written and coding can still be done with Fable, just with overeager bouncing of "some routine coding and debugging tasks" to Opus.

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dzonga

Chinese models brought the building down.

are export controls the right thing ? Probably not.

but the american economy is over-exposed on "A.I" - the capital expenditure, while the Chinese are proving you don't need to spend tons of capital to get close to the frontier.

the Chinese have better building capacity & cheaper energy. that means the market has to correct at some point.

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nickv

I bet you that nothing changed with how Fable 5 is run.

"Anthropic has agreed to proactively detect and address security risks associated with the models" LOL, this was already happening.

This clown car administration just keeps making shit up and then backpedalling in a way that just leaves everything worse.

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artisin

Silly me for hoping they'd actually honor their original 14-day promise. Per their latest blog post, they've generously slashed the timeline to 7 days, but wait there's more! It's now limited to 50% of your weekly usage:

  > Fable 5 will be available starting tomorrow, Wednesday, July 1, to users globally... Fable 5 will be included for up to 50% of weekly usage limits through July 7, after which it will be available via usage credits. 
https://www.anthropic.com/news/redeploying-fable-5
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avaer

I shudder to think what the definition of "malicious activity" is that they will be reporting to the government. Speech has been severely chilled the last couple of years.

It's nice that the restriction is going to get lifted but I hope this doesn't make anyone complacent that their coding work is going to be scrutinized by the US government, with AI, when using these models.

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varjag

So two and a half weeks, and on the workday. I wonder how much Jared had made.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48519513

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ryandrake

"Taken Steps"

Looks like Anthropic paid the Danegeld. Now they'll never get rid of the Dane.

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nelox

> We’ve received notice that the Department of Commerce has lifted export controls on Claude Fable 5 and Mythos 5.

We'll begin restoring access tomorrow, and will share an update soon.

We’re grateful to our users for their patience, and to everyone who worked with us on redeploying the models.

https://x.com/anthropicai/status/2072106151890809341?s=46

baggachipz

Looks like the White House is the happy owner of a new gold statue then?

stavarotti

I just finished reading Incorruptible and a central theme (Anthropic is a case study) is that trust is singularly the most important currency a business has. The past few weeks have done wonders for Anthropic’s marketing but just as much if not more damage to the trust factor. Businesses will continue to use Anthropic because it’s the default and accessible where it matters (AWS, Azure, GCP, Databricks, Snowflake, etc). But the trust factor has dropped. It’ll be interesting to see if they can turn the tide. Maybe Fable will be too awesome for people to care about the past few weeks?

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wg0

This administration has damaged the US soft power. For decades, US was a reliable trade partner. Not any more.

EU is looking and charting its course already. Yeah, we can joke about it, we can mock it but it is in momentum already, one step at a time.

chatmasta

Mildly surprising they lifted export restrictions for Mythos too. Isn’t that Fable minus the safety layer?

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dwaltrip

Fable was such a clear improvement. I can't wait to start using it again.

Opus 4.8, you did a lot of good work for me, but in the name of all things holy... I will not miss your communication style. So long and thanks for the fish.

bronlund

Its too little, too late. LLMs are going to go the same way as 3D printers, action cameras, vacuums, TVs, drones, cars, phones, whatever.

The west just don't know how to compete in the long run. The greed is eating itself up.

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drevil-v2

The damage is done. You cannot build a business critical function on top of American SOTA frontier model. Especially not with the current crew in charge.

Now whether AI tech is in the same league as say Nuclear tech and therefore by any reasonable standard should be regulated is a different question.

We hit the slippery slope on a random day in June 2026 and there is no putting the genie back in the bottle. Any exec or manager that puts load bearing weight on top of Anthropic/OpenAI/Google/AmericanCorp frontier model deserves the stress.

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indigodaddy

Q: If/when Fable decides to nerd down to Opus on requests it deems dangerous, will we still pay the Fable API token rate?

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Chance-Device

Just let people use their subscriptions for Fable. Permanently. All of it. Even if it runs out at 10% of the equivalent Opus use. Let people choose, there’s nothing to be gained by not allowing users to exhaust their subscriptions rapidly on this other than ill will.

skeledrew

Can't do anything else with GLM 5.2 being widely available and advertised as "Mythos-like", and even Japan dropping a credible model. Actually it would only hurt to keep them in lockdown.

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cranium

Wait, will it downgrade to Opus even when using with extra usage? So you pay a hefty amount up to the point where the model needs to do Real Work then it quits?

1970-01-01

"Lifted" meaning temporary, until they don't like something else and have another tantrum over a minor detail.

Pragmata

>We’ve received notice that the Department of Commerce has lifted export controls on Claude Fable 5 and Mythos 5.

>We'll begin restoring access tomorrow, and will share an update soon.

>We’re grateful to our users for their patience, and to everyone who worked with us on redeploying the models.

From Anthropic on Twitter

mrandish

Love how they waited until almost 5p west coast time on the last day of the fiscal quarter and clearly gave Ant no advance notice (or Ant would have had Fable release queued up on a button).

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zmj

Thank you to the folks that navigated the maze in the dark to make this happen.

woggy

Hopefully GPT 5.6 soon

chungus_amongus

For all the sound and fury we don’t even get a week of fable before it goes token based billing. At such time, I will be taking my business elsewhere.

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jb_briant

I struggle to imagine where anthropic is going with sub users...

Fable 5 might not be accessible for sub in the future despite their "best effort".

And 5.6-sol is as expensive as 5.5, so highly probable to be kept in sub.

So what's the plan? Hoping people stay on ClaudeCode because Sonnet 5 while Codex offers 5.6-sol to subsription peasants?

Seems risky

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gowthamsaiyadav

My only hope is that they don't overdo the guardrails. Claude's been one of the best coding models, and it'd be nice if it stayed that way for real and legitimate developer workflows.

mateenah

I wonder if it's still good

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theHocineSaad

Okay, but what has changed?

tekacs

It's interesting that they will only have it on the surface through July 7, especially since GPT-5.6 will presumably come out soon as well.

Of course, it's possible that Fable remains drastically better than 5.6, but to whatever extent Fable is the true frontier (if temporarily)... it makes me wonder if external commitments on compute put a hard deadline on how long they could run Fable on the subscriptions.

DonsDiscountGas

I could barely use Fable before (I work in life science) and now they're adding more restrictions? Well good thing Opus is solid

nevi-me

They should give us a month of access again, I feel like I didn't do enough with Fable before it got blocked.

I only realised late that I had an algorithm problem that existing models were struggling with, and Fable had made progress with. It created a 14 phase plan, which I was able to execute with Opus after the restriction.

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jmull

It was just a matter of the right amount of money going into the right person's hands.

satvikpendem

So it seems like David Sacks was right that the US government only really got involved because the Amazon/ AWS CEO complained about latent security threats [0] and that the government was reluctant to actually issue the export control.

[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48529358

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matheusmoreira

Good to hear. I was going to cancel my subscription if I couldn't use Fable. No point in paying Anthropic to train models I can't use.

fmdv

Fable was (is) a major leap forward for my development tasks. The quality of the model compared to Opus 4.8 (when I last used it before the ban hammer) was night and day. Fable single-shotting complex and complete applications was a beautiful thing and I can't wait to get back to developing with it.

All aboard the hype train!

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zxilly

So we will get GPT 5.6 soon?

scriptsmith

Definitely took longer than I was expecting, then after two weeks I thought we'd never get it.

wiradikusuma

Fable is still unavailable to me on both web and Claude Code. I'm in Indonesia on Max plan (new paid user, only 2 weeks in). Are there specific steps to re-enable it?

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AussieWog93

Surprised this post has less engagement than the Sonnet announcement. Much bigger deal, even with caveats.

Sabinus

The classic chaotic governance model and creation of an uncertain business environment by the Trump admin in the most important industry for the US economy.

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low_tech_love

Let me guess, somebody magically set some huge bets on poly and stock market 5 minutes before the announcement ?

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drivebyhooting

When is Google coming out with an equivalent Gemini model?

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Sabinus

Chaotic governance model and uncertain business environment by the Trump admin as usual.

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tinypak

I see, so that explains why people are starting to talk about Claude Fable 5 and how I'm now going to have to buy $6,000 of compute for our startup

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pfannkuchen

Do these actions strike anyone else as theater?

jbritton

I wonder if Anthropic servers can handle the load their going to get tomorrow. Unless it’s a staged rollout

tjohnell

Who knows - this could be the last model we see from Anthropic. Or it just becomes the wild west and we figure it out as we go.

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natch

They need Lehane or… since OpenAI got him, what is Fabiani up to these days?

tamimio

So after this publicity they got, they will release a locked down version of the models, did I get that right?

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Matl

Something I am not seeing discussed is why the sudden reversal?

Could it be Antropic promised NSA direct access to everyone's queries or something? Maybe an opportunity for admin officials to get in early on their promised IPO?

I am not a conspiracy theorist but this admin especially doesn't relent for free.

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CommanderData

The constant hype marketing from Anthropic probably did not help in the end. I think that had something to do with it.

poopyscoopy

Debating if I should re-sub to the Max plan now (in case they grandfather people in some how) or if I should just wait and see what they announce.

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HDBaseT

The question is how lobotomized will it be now?

modriano

So, uh, any chance us Claude subscription people are going to get the 11 days of Fable 5 access (at non API pricing) we were deprived of?

laidoffamazon

So how much did they have to donate to the MAGA PAC for this one?

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woggy

Basically not usable if it's only available via usage pricing.

impodimium

Huh did not expect them to lift restrictions this soon.

rbbydotdev

Howard Lutnick is the 41st United States Secretary of Commerce. Howard Lutnick is known to have had ties to Jeffrey Epstein. From what we know and what has so far been released to the public, he is even documented to have visited his island.

Havoc

So much for way too dangerous end of the world

spacedcowboy

They asked Claude how to hide the Epstein files data that it found, so that even Claude and Mythos couldn't straight-up verify that Trump is a paedophile.

It took a lot of doing, but they finally managed it, so the plebs get to play with the toys again

vlian2088

>Anthropic has taken steps in close coordination with the U.S. government to address the risks associated with Claude Mythos 5 and Claude Fable 5. Among other things, Anthropic has agreed to proactively detect and address security risks associated with the models; to work diligently with the U.S. government on protocols and standards and releases for Mythos, Fable, and future models; and to inform the U.S. government of any malicious activity.

ah, I see. so, Chinese models are getting banned soon.

unchocked

w00t

jknoepfler

Almost as though they were indefensible bullshit to begin with. I wonder who extorted whom and for how much.

Like gee, that was fast. If this had any bearing on reality, one would imagine the vetting process would take actual time and that there would be a real, material difference between what we knew then and what we know now.

The cartoon bullshit theater is exhausting.

alfiedotwtf

For how long lol

colesantiago

This is great news,

I'm sure many teams couldn't do their best work because Claude Fable 5 was unavailable.

I wonder what their hiring pages look like now, are they starting to remove job postings?

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