NSA lost access to Mythos amid Anthropic dispute

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teravor

mythos allowed mediocre people to get results by holding their hand through the process, or just ignoring their irrelevant input and knowing what to do.

if you throw millions of tokens at IDA Pro MCP with the right prompt lets just say security by obscurity fails miserably because there is no obscurity when the LLM chews through the decompilation.

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medlazik

AI marketing bullshit stunts are unlike anything I've seen in 30 years. It started with MS Copilot so called capabilities for work, which were completely made up use cases that didn't work at all (3 years later still). We've had OpenAI "AGI is coming" and "AI will take your job", now we have Mythos being so "dangerous" for cybersecurity, which of course makes the average Joe interpret it as Anthropic being "the better overall company, the NSA uses it!!". I mean gov foes with Anthropic are probably true, but the marketing is to blame not Mythos capabilities. This is all so fucking pathetic

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ck2

they are doing DOGE-cuts to all of intelligence now anyway

dozens upon dozens fired for no reason

so US "intelligence" is going to go even further backwards

* https://www.yahoo.com/news/politics/articles/trump-acting-ch...

November is going to be insanity

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charcircuit

Everyone lost access. What even is mainstream news these days.

AustinDev

They could easily take the weights if they wanted. I don't believe they meaningfully lost access.

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Madmallard

Doesn't make any sense. They could just force them to provide Mythos to the federal government.

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gsibble

Misdirection

dofm

If Mythos is still running internally, the NSA still have some access to it. It's just crazy to believe there aren't CIA and/or NSA plants (tacitly acknowledged or otherwise) inside Anthropic and OpenAI.

But Mythos is still only an advanced LLM so I am not sure what all this breathy fuss is about; it sounds like the PR war more than anything.

If the NSA aren't themselves training technologies that are at least as powerful, that would modestly surprise me.

Not that you need an LLM to monitor the risks to the USA. You just need Tulsi Gabbard's emails.

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ransom1538

NSA has produced nothing. Does nothing. Why don't we just have them pick up garbage on the freeway to help out the tax payers? Let Anthropic and other adults push spying forward.

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swader999

Kind of crazy actually. Other models are catching up fast, they all can find the vulnerabilities in our (and by our I mean everyone's) underlying infra very fast. It takes a very long time to fix, review, and finally deploy these fixes. There really isn't much time left.