I&#x27;ve been interested in VR for a while and would be interested to try out a headset I could actually work in, but personally my interest in the Apple Vision Pro basically disappeared when the Steam Frame was announced.It&#x27;s lower resolution, but I think it would probably be sufficient for light work, and I&#x27;m not really interested in the pass-through camera features of the AVP. The real differentiator though was that the steam frame will also work with my existing computer for gaming, and I think it&#x27;s likely to be much more hackable than the Apple Vision.

im an apple enjoyer with disposable income, i bought because my brother worked on the foveated rendering, but goddamn it’s so heavy that if i use for &gt;2hrs i’ll have neck pain for &gt;2 days. it’s neat and fantastic for chores and cooking if i wear for 30min at a time but super impractical for me to actually use if im not speed running exactly one task

&gt; why not?For me it&#x27;s nausea and motion sickness. When my ears don&#x27;t sync with my eyes, my brain calls bug(), and it doesn&#x27;t end well.

I need a new couch more than I need an AR headset, for one. $3,500 is a lot of money for a glorified devkit.

PrisonOS. It isn&#x27;t a computer. They control everything to take 30% sales and monopolize the ecosystem including controlling your whole body.

why not? Personally, I tried but the crap with my prescription because I wear glasses was too much, so I didn&#x27;t end up getting one because I fail at executive function.

&gt;3D in 2D in 3D. OpenGL clients can use GLX rendering over X11. Compatibility varies, as it did in the 2000s.Made me chuckle. I think at one point in my life I actually knew which exact GL versions and features were working on which servers. Also it&#x27;s pretty cool.Still won&#x27;t buy an AVP.

Right. The only thing I want to know is do the xeyes follow you around the room!?

You can get the user&#x27;s head position using WorldTrackingProvider, that&#x27;s enough for xeyes to follow you across the room.There&#x27;s even a sample app close enough<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;developer.apple.com&#x2F;documentation&#x2F;visionOS&#x2F;placing-entities-using-head-and-device-transform" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;developer.apple.com&#x2F;documentation&#x2F;visionOS&#x2F;placing-e...</a>

Apps don’t get access to gaze position on the Vision Pro, for privacy&#x2F;security reasons.

Indeed, it&#x27;s annoying that there doesn&#x27;t seem to be an Apple-approved method for customizing the outer display.

Could you run xeyes on the outside? IIRC Apple Vision had this outer display for rendering the bits of user&#x27;s face that are covered by it.

I can&#x27;t believe the screenshot isn&#x27;t running xeyes. At least it is TWM.

Hell I half expect X11 to outlast wayland at this point.

Certainly, XLibre just released a new version 25.2.0. I suspect X11 will long outlast Fedora

Very creative!Does anyone else besides me suspect X11 will outlive visionOS?

WayVR is also worth checking out, if you&#x27;re interested in using a native x11&#x2F;Wayland desktop with a headset on Linux: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;wayvr-org&#x2F;wayvr" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;wayvr-org&#x2F;wayvr</a>

I&#x27;m GLaD to see more X11 projects recently

Thanks, that looks tempting! Shame about the monochrome camera, but maybe I can use an add-on camera to colour in the world.

Oh absolutely wait like two weeks and get on the list for a Steam Frame. It actually runs arch Linux and Steam says “it’s your computer, you can do what you want with it” unlike Meta and the Quest. I’m excited to do Kicad in mine.

Steam frame is out soon and should be the ultimate Linux friendly headset. It runs real Linux and Valve is big on “it’s your computer to use as you please”.

Meta Quest, but treat it as a dumb headset with ALVR?

May I ask what the recommendation is at the moment if I want a Linux AR headset that can take prescription lenses (or accommodate glasses)? I&#x27;d like to write my own code but not have to beg somebody else to let me run it.

it’s too damn spooky. i know they rolled back or caveated some of the language after the uproar but i certainly would like to travel to the EU without any kind of anxiety about “do my open source apps mean im an EU felon if i forget to check github issues for security issues”

Lots of individual &#x2F; hobbyist developers are no longer publishing to the EU App Store due to Digital Services Act regulation and compliance.

I know startups who don&#x27;t publish to certain EU countries because they have to fill &quot;a big scary form&quot;

I guess it’s easier to find a testflight link if one is set up, or just to create a new account altogether, and sign in to it temporarily.

You can always switch to US app store region (cancel exisiting subscriptions, leave family, and wait until apple music&#x2F;tv subscription is expired).You won’t be able to use non-US credit card for the app store but you can always buy US virtual apple gift cards on amazon straight from apple shop there.

Seem to be unavailable in German App Store?…

Interesting. I wonder if it&#x27;s based on Xorg or something else

On that note, anybody has rayneo air4 pro working with x11?

Neat, it would be cool if it also worked on the Quest.

It would be fun to teach poodles how to fly in 3D

Bet Raul&#x27;s wild kingdom would be awesome in 3D...

I thought it would have something to do with Weird Al. Oh well

UHF X11: X11 Built for VisionOS and Apple Vision Pro