If you work for meta you shouldn't have a problem with invading the privacy of others.
Of course this is not ok, but you should really quit your job if you have ethical or moral problems with that.
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yodsanklai
People are always keen on criticizing the EU and their regulations, but employees in EU are protected from these kinds of stunts. And also from the upcoming (rumored) layoffs which won't be nearly as cruel.
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ludicrousdispla
> The post says the software is limited to a list of commonly used work applications, like Gmail, GChat, and Metamate, an AI assistant for employees.
> It also says it only applies to computers, not to employees' phones.
What a great motivator for employees to stop using their work computers.
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codeulike
Is this like a game where we choose the next word?
Meta employees are up in arms over a mandatory program to train AI on their _______
Pets?
Hairstyles?
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sys_64738
Facebook employees forced their algorithms on the public at large and now the company is doing the same. What did you think would happen when you are employed by an adware company?
yubblegum
Oddly enough was watching Colossus: The Forbin Project. One of those mid 70s scifi flicks. At some point, their AI demanded that its creator be under 24/7 audio-visiual surveillance (including bathroom time, yes).
p.s. was just reading the wiki plot summary and lol'ing at this bit: "Colossus has the responsible programmers summarily executed outside their workplace, left laying 24 hours, and cremated. Colossus also names their replacements. " -- karma is a bitch, indeed.
notabotiswear
>"This makes me super uncomfortable. How do we opt out?"
Karma’s a b*tch, innit?
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moregrist
I understand the schadenfreude people are feeling here. It certainly feels like a fitting outcome for people who work for a company with the morals of Meta.
But I hope they successfully push back against it. I don’t want this kind of behavior normalized.
spprashant
They are trying so hard to make AI do human jobs instead of focussing on opportunities where AI is special suited. Do you really want your super intelligent token muncher to be clicking browser tabs all day?
pluc
So they do treat their employees like their users
anygivnthursday
This is just v1, next release might add eye movement, pulse and brain wave tracking to train ZuckNet.
throw0101a
Now over ten years old (2015-10-16):
> 'I never thought leopards would eat MY face,' sobs woman who voted for the Leopards Eating People's Faces Party.
Half the big tech world is economically built on mass scale invasive unwanted tracking & adtech. If it goes up in flames from internal tension about invasive tracking that's just karma
I don’t care about Schadenfreude. It’s good that they are making a stink.
I would bang my head against the wall if they either didn’t make a stink or publicly said that, of course the Company is going to monitor me, it’s their hardware[1] and who am I to be anything but a vessel for my employer on Company time etc.
It is in a way some kind of modern day slavery. Of course they
can always decide to quit, but what if the next company uses
the same sniffing strategy? On youtube you can see video clips
of indians wearing various glasses to monitor their own manual
work procedures. AI has truly become our new overlord, controlled
by a few huge companies.
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vortegne
Small-scale imperial boomerang. You thought that you're building a privacy-destroying machine and this machine will never destroy _your_ privacy?
At some point in the future, a lot of the SV techbros will be hopefully viewed as ghouls with no morals or ethics. This is not a subsection of humanity that should be dictating anything and yet they always do. If you complain about this and don't quit your job at Meta, you're failing an extremely basic check.
If you work for meta you shouldn't have a problem with invading the privacy of others.
Of course this is not ok, but you should really quit your job if you have ethical or moral problems with that.
People are always keen on criticizing the EU and their regulations, but employees in EU are protected from these kinds of stunts. And also from the upcoming (rumored) layoffs which won't be nearly as cruel.
> The post says the software is limited to a list of commonly used work applications, like Gmail, GChat, and Metamate, an AI assistant for employees.
> It also says it only applies to computers, not to employees' phones.
What a great motivator for employees to stop using their work computers.
Is this like a game where we choose the next word?
Meta employees are up in arms over a mandatory program to train AI on their _______
Pets?
Hairstyles?
Facebook employees forced their algorithms on the public at large and now the company is doing the same. What did you think would happen when you are employed by an adware company?
Oddly enough was watching Colossus: The Forbin Project. One of those mid 70s scifi flicks. At some point, their AI demanded that its creator be under 24/7 audio-visiual surveillance (including bathroom time, yes).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colossus:_The_Forbin_Project
p.s. was just reading the wiki plot summary and lol'ing at this bit: "Colossus has the responsible programmers summarily executed outside their workplace, left laying 24 hours, and cremated. Colossus also names their replacements. " -- karma is a bitch, indeed.
>"This makes me super uncomfortable. How do we opt out?"
Karma’s a b*tch, innit?
I understand the schadenfreude people are feeling here. It certainly feels like a fitting outcome for people who work for a company with the morals of Meta.
But I hope they successfully push back against it. I don’t want this kind of behavior normalized.
They are trying so hard to make AI do human jobs instead of focussing on opportunities where AI is special suited. Do you really want your super intelligent token muncher to be clicking browser tabs all day?
So they do treat their employees like their users
This is just v1, next release might add eye movement, pulse and brain wave tracking to train ZuckNet.
Now over ten years old (2015-10-16):
> 'I never thought leopards would eat MY face,' sobs woman who voted for the Leopards Eating People's Faces Party.
* https://twitter.com/Cavalorn/status/654934442549620736
Nice. Let them taste some of their own medicine.
Very little sympathy frankly.
Half the big tech world is economically built on mass scale invasive unwanted tracking & adtech. If it goes up in flames from internal tension about invasive tracking that's just karma
Required reading: The Circle by Dave Eggers https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Circle_(Eggers_novel)
I don’t care about Schadenfreude. It’s good that they are making a stink.
I would bang my head against the wall if they either didn’t make a stink or publicly said that, of course the Company is going to monitor me, it’s their hardware[1] and who am I to be anything but a vessel for my employer on Company time etc.
[1] As seen in the comments on the large thread about this https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47851948
The most exquisite form of karma.
It is in a way some kind of modern day slavery. Of course they can always decide to quit, but what if the next company uses the same sniffing strategy? On youtube you can see video clips of indians wearing various glasses to monitor their own manual work procedures. AI has truly become our new overlord, controlled by a few huge companies.
Small-scale imperial boomerang. You thought that you're building a privacy-destroying machine and this machine will never destroy _your_ privacy?
At some point in the future, a lot of the SV techbros will be hopefully viewed as ghouls with no morals or ethics. This is not a subsection of humanity that should be dictating anything and yet they always do. If you complain about this and don't quit your job at Meta, you're failing an extremely basic check.
The company is run by lizards in hoodies.