When I was a teenager I was friends with an extremely poor kid who literally lived on the wrong side of the tracks. He couldn’t afford a microphone and used an old pair of busted headphones to rap into as a microphone. He had recorded and produced a whole album like this with Fruity Loops on an old computer he found discarded at the side of the road.
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analog31
A fun fact is that the ability of a single transducer to function as both a speaker and a microphone is the basis for establishing an absolute measurement of sound pressure.
I have vague memories of iPod Linux (or Rockbox, I can’t remember) having a feature where you could record voice notes using your regular headphones using the same technique
jpc0
A magnet in a coil operates both ways, this is non intuitive but perfectly sound.
Not sure if it's mentioned in the article but microphones can be speakers too...
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antirez
Similarly most leds are photo diodes, electric motors can be used to generate current, Peltier cells can be used to generate current, and so so forth. Many of such physical processes are invertible.
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Anechoic
This is how drive-thru kiosks work (principal, not the specific implementation).
Source: I used to measure the “microphone” frequency response for a kiosk OEM.
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rf15
As a kid I accidently plugged a mic into the speaker port and was surprised that, when I put my ear close to the mic, I could hear the computer sounds! It made sense in hindsight, and since then I knew they are kind of functionally equivalent.
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userbinator
Not all speakers work well as dynamic mics; and in fact turning on mic mode may enable the bias voltage, which could either burn out the voice coil or hold the diaphragm against the stop, making it even less likely to pick up any sound.
Jack retasking, although documented in applicable technical specifications, is not well-known, as was mentioned by the Linux audio developer
This could be a "bubble effect"; the Realtek codecs mentioned have a Windows utility to configure the jacks, which countless otherwise non-technical users would've seen and interacted with, so awareness of this feature is probably higher than they think. Fun fact: the "ALC" prefix in their codec names stands for Avance Logic, which was acquired by Realtek and they just kept that prefix well into the HD Audio era.
maqp
Some DJs use this principle when they need a hacky stage mic. They plug their headphones to the mixer's mic input, and shout to the speaker element.
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anonymousiam
While staying in a high-end D.C. area hotel, I once discovered a hidden hard-wired speaker under the bathroom sink. Somebody had written "F.B.I." on it with nail polish.
I already knew that speakers could be used as microphones, and it occurred to me that putting a speaker in a hotel room in the name of "safety" would be a great cover story for a surveillance operation.
f055
As a kid behind the Iron Curtain I had a radio & cassette tape player with a single large speaker built-in. The cassette player had a record button that when pressed together with play used the speaker and I could actually record my voice, and play it back, from the tape. After enough re-recording on a single tape the fade of the old recordings broke through the new ones creating a truly amazing sound experience. Too bad I lost the tapes and the device.
DoctorOetker
not only can electromagnet voice coils (speakers or microphones), be used as either a speaker or a microphone (transducer), they can even be used as both at the same time using a DC-coupled circulator / isolator:
When I did commercial fishing in Alaska, often the boats just had two speakers, one in the wheel house and one on the deck (long liner). You just talked into/toward the speaker.
ChicagoDave
I used my moms Koss headphones as a microphone on her old stereo and used it to broadcast cast my teenage stupidity to the whole house.
olelele
A big speaker element is useful for micing kick drums.
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m4lvin
Okay, but how do I use this as a replacement when the mic is not working on Linux?
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undebuggable
That's all true. As a kid I was watching with sister a children's show in TV. The actor on the screen asked a question followed by silence. My sister yelled the answer at the TV, then the actor said something like "you're right kid". I was flabbergasted.
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me_jumper
This needs a (2017), I was so confused why this was published again, seemed so familiar.
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Se_ba
Tbh it's crazy that you can do it in some of the microwaves
jedbrooke
Fun fact, an electric guitar can also be used as a microphone if you shout in to it loud enough.
We discovered this while fooling around with some guitars and such as teenagers. We had a 4 track input device that was separating vocals and instruments, but even after turning down the vocal track, we could still hear it in the instrument track. We then of course followed it up with some experiments deliberately shouting into the guitar and enjoying the distorted recordings that came out of it
riobard
why is jack retasking a thing…
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AmmarSaleh50
don't let the CIA see this one
villgax
If this or an accelerometer based recording is what Meta uses to eavesdrop on in-person talk then color me pink
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nailer
Vault 7 from wikileaks confirmed that yes, the CIA is using this.
When I was a teenager I was friends with an extremely poor kid who literally lived on the wrong side of the tracks. He couldn’t afford a microphone and used an old pair of busted headphones to rap into as a microphone. He had recorded and produced a whole album like this with Fruity Loops on an old computer he found discarded at the side of the road.
A fun fact is that the ability of a single transducer to function as both a speaker and a microphone is the basis for establishing an absolute measurement of sound pressure.
https://nvlpubs.nist.gov/nistpubs/jres/25/jresv25n5p489_A1b....
Using a speaker as a kick drum mic ("subkick") has been a thing in recording for years [1]. I've never used one but it makes complete sense.
[1] https://bobbyowsinskiblog.com/build-subkick/
I have vague memories of iPod Linux (or Rockbox, I can’t remember) having a feature where you could record voice notes using your regular headphones using the same technique
A magnet in a coil operates both ways, this is non intuitive but perfectly sound.
Not sure if it's mentioned in the article but microphones can be speakers too...
Similarly most leds are photo diodes, electric motors can be used to generate current, Peltier cells can be used to generate current, and so so forth. Many of such physical processes are invertible.
This is how drive-thru kiosks work (principal, not the specific implementation).
Source: I used to measure the “microphone” frequency response for a kiosk OEM.
As a kid I accidently plugged a mic into the speaker port and was surprised that, when I put my ear close to the mic, I could hear the computer sounds! It made sense in hindsight, and since then I knew they are kind of functionally equivalent.
Not all speakers work well as dynamic mics; and in fact turning on mic mode may enable the bias voltage, which could either burn out the voice coil or hold the diaphragm against the stop, making it even less likely to pick up any sound.
Jack retasking, although documented in applicable technical specifications, is not well-known, as was mentioned by the Linux audio developer
This could be a "bubble effect"; the Realtek codecs mentioned have a Windows utility to configure the jacks, which countless otherwise non-technical users would've seen and interacted with, so awareness of this feature is probably higher than they think. Fun fact: the "ALC" prefix in their codec names stands for Avance Logic, which was acquired by Realtek and they just kept that prefix well into the HD Audio era.
Some DJs use this principle when they need a hacky stage mic. They plug their headphones to the mixer's mic input, and shout to the speaker element.
While staying in a high-end D.C. area hotel, I once discovered a hidden hard-wired speaker under the bathroom sink. Somebody had written "F.B.I." on it with nail polish.
I already knew that speakers could be used as microphones, and it occurred to me that putting a speaker in a hotel room in the name of "safety" would be a great cover story for a surveillance operation.
As a kid behind the Iron Curtain I had a radio & cassette tape player with a single large speaker built-in. The cassette player had a record button that when pressed together with play used the speaker and I could actually record my voice, and play it back, from the tape. After enough re-recording on a single tape the fade of the old recordings broke through the new ones creating a truly amazing sound experience. Too bad I lost the tapes and the device.
not only can electromagnet voice coils (speakers or microphones), be used as either a speaker or a microphone (transducer), they can even be used as both at the same time using a DC-coupled circulator / isolator:
https://techlib.com/files/rfdesign3.pdf
When I did commercial fishing in Alaska, often the boats just had two speakers, one in the wheel house and one on the deck (long liner). You just talked into/toward the speaker.
I used my moms Koss headphones as a microphone on her old stereo and used it to broadcast cast my teenage stupidity to the whole house.
A big speaker element is useful for micing kick drums.
Okay, but how do I use this as a replacement when the mic is not working on Linux?
That's all true. As a kid I was watching with sister a children's show in TV. The actor on the screen asked a question followed by silence. My sister yelled the answer at the TV, then the actor said something like "you're right kid". I was flabbergasted.
This needs a (2017), I was so confused why this was published again, seemed so familiar.
Tbh it's crazy that you can do it in some of the microwaves
Fun fact, an electric guitar can also be used as a microphone if you shout in to it loud enough.
We discovered this while fooling around with some guitars and such as teenagers. We had a 4 track input device that was separating vocals and instruments, but even after turning down the vocal track, we could still hear it in the instrument track. We then of course followed it up with some experiments deliberately shouting into the guitar and enjoying the distorted recordings that came out of it
why is jack retasking a thing…
don't let the CIA see this one
If this or an accelerometer based recording is what Meta uses to eavesdrop on in-person talk then color me pink
Vault 7 from wikileaks confirmed that yes, the CIA is using this.