Embarrassingly badly generated article, with no real takeaway other than "I let an LLM dig into the code, here's what words it chose to describe EmDash".
> Joost put it well:
> It’s not a CMS with AI features bolted on. It’s a CMS where AI agents are first-class builders.
Joost asked ChatGPT what he should say about the CMS, and you felt like it was a good quote.
> Why I won’t use it
> I migrated to Astro partly to get away from the CMS.
Well then you never needed a CMS in the first place? I also don't need use a CMS for my site, but I still maintain a CMS for customers because they do need it.
> Does it solve the right problem?
This is the only thing I cared about from this article, and the answer is [bag of words]. Are people really this desperate to put their names on new tech? Is it an "I want to be included!" mindset that gets people to prompt an hour of their life away?
> Astro itself wasn’t an obvious success from day one.
Astro is just the framework they built on, what does this sentence have to do with EmDash? I'm so confused about what this article is trying to tell me.
Also, how come you did not write anything about what it was like when WordPress had just released? I'm sure there are enough people who can help out with that. Did it have competitors? I wouldn't know, I was eating sand when it came out.
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leetrout
It's on the front page right now below this link but just for anyone looking later:
EmDash – A spiritual successor to WordPress that solves plugin security
The author notes that their website is a result of static generation, while EmDash needs a server beside an HTTP server and a bunch of static files.
It's partly a fair point. Anything that does not dynamically change with each reload should be generated a a static file, and served as such. When the backing data change via the admin interface, then the page should re-generate. I suppose it's the proper caching approach, and I assume any sane CMS does this now (yes, even Wordpress).
But what a static site cannot do is user-specific content. And EmDash has a elaborate structure of user access levels, various auth methods, etc. Once you have to have a user session, there's no way around having an application that handles this. The simplest example is having a comments section.
RobotToaster
Anything that challenges wordpress is positive.
That said, unless they get a good ecosystem of free plugins I don't see it going far.
ulrischa
Emdash has nothing in common worh wordpress. There are no blocks
givan
I'm developing Vvveb CMS and WordPress is very inspiring, the standard to which everyone compares in the industry.
One of the reason WordPress is so ubiquitous is that it's very easy to host and it doesn't need advanced technical knowledge.
PHP hosting is very cheap and WordPress installation is very easy, it's just one click in some hosting dashboards.
The Javascript ecosystem is complex, you need to be a developer and have access to command line to install most Javascript CMSes and need a vps or more expensive hosting.
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katsura
Neither the "Cloudflare’s own announcement" nor the "Joost’s take" links point to the right URL, should be lower case.
Embarrassingly badly generated article, with no real takeaway other than "I let an LLM dig into the code, here's what words it chose to describe EmDash".
> Joost put it well:
> It’s not a CMS with AI features bolted on. It’s a CMS where AI agents are first-class builders.
Joost asked ChatGPT what he should say about the CMS, and you felt like it was a good quote.
> Why I won’t use it
> I migrated to Astro partly to get away from the CMS.
Well then you never needed a CMS in the first place? I also don't need use a CMS for my site, but I still maintain a CMS for customers because they do need it.
> Does it solve the right problem?
This is the only thing I cared about from this article, and the answer is [bag of words]. Are people really this desperate to put their names on new tech? Is it an "I want to be included!" mindset that gets people to prompt an hour of their life away?
> Astro itself wasn’t an obvious success from day one.
Astro is just the framework they built on, what does this sentence have to do with EmDash? I'm so confused about what this article is trying to tell me.
Also, how come you did not write anything about what it was like when WordPress had just released? I'm sure there are enough people who can help out with that. Did it have competitors? I wouldn't know, I was eating sand when it came out.
It's on the front page right now below this link but just for anyone looking later:
EmDash – A spiritual successor to WordPress that solves plugin security
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47602832
The author notes that their website is a result of static generation, while EmDash needs a server beside an HTTP server and a bunch of static files.
It's partly a fair point. Anything that does not dynamically change with each reload should be generated a a static file, and served as such. When the backing data change via the admin interface, then the page should re-generate. I suppose it's the proper caching approach, and I assume any sane CMS does this now (yes, even Wordpress).
But what a static site cannot do is user-specific content. And EmDash has a elaborate structure of user access levels, various auth methods, etc. Once you have to have a user session, there's no way around having an application that handles this. The simplest example is having a comments section.
Anything that challenges wordpress is positive.
That said, unless they get a good ecosystem of free plugins I don't see it going far.
Emdash has nothing in common worh wordpress. There are no blocks
I'm developing Vvveb CMS and WordPress is very inspiring, the standard to which everyone compares in the industry.
One of the reason WordPress is so ubiquitous is that it's very easy to host and it doesn't need advanced technical knowledge.
PHP hosting is very cheap and WordPress installation is very easy, it's just one click in some hosting dashboards.
The Javascript ecosystem is complex, you need to be a developer and have access to command line to install most Javascript CMSes and need a vps or more expensive hosting.
Neither the "Cloudflare’s own announcement" nor the "Joost’s take" links point to the right URL, should be lower case.
Another slop blog post in HN top, not surprising.