I like how, even when the whole point is to not have any terms or conditions, there are still disclaimers. "Only for lawful purposes," "no warranty," "we are not responsible."
Those are still terms and conditions!
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Retr0id
I wonder how many one-sentence prompts have made it to the HN front page at this point.
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layer8
> By accessing or using this site, you acknowledge and accept the following terms.
I’m pretty sure this is already questionable in the EU.
Comedically, this doesn't load from my IP address in the Russian Federation. (HN does.)
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tech_jabroni
No alarms, no surprises
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0xbadcafebee
Remember when people started using WTFPL because it "sounded good", only to later find out it left them and their users legally liable? This is that but for websites.
tosti
Schrödingers terms and conditions
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amelius
The URL basically nulls the license agreement.
jborichevskiy
I know this is mostly parody, but I'm curious if anyone has good starter templates for something that covers the general stuff and doesn't require a lawyer to customize
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the_axiom
amazing how such a simple website lags to scroll on my phone
gnfargbl
> Access is not conditioned on approval.
The Zen Koan of T&C's.
catlifeonmars
goes without saying
that this site definitely
does not, legally
Barbing
Hope this slop doesn’t get anyone into trouble.
Last updated: never
No further pages. No hidden clauses.
Not sure “last updated=never” works, but I don’t make terms and conditions websites.
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knorker
This does not read like it was written by a professional. Non-professionals writing licenses and T&Cs cause problems because no organization, for profit or not, wants to be dragged into court to get a "common sense" definition of a word or comma defined, at their expense.
I've heard of large organizations reaching out to places who use amateur T&Cs and licenses, saying "if we give you $X, can you dual license this as MIT, Apache, BSD, or hell anything standard?".
> Access is not conditioned on approval
Is this obvious enough legalese to not waste tens of thousands of dollars in legal fees if you get sued?
Note before you reply: I will not argue with you about how obvious it is. If you are actually a lawyer then it'd be interesting to hear your guidance, which I very much understand is not legal advice. If you're not a lawyer then I'm not.
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weinzierl
Just today I asked an LLM:
"Often one generation values things much more than others. Boomers and their wristwatches. One generation is like 'only from my cold dead hands,' the others 'what would I even need this for?!' What are examples of things the youngest generation did away with?"
If OP were a checklist, the answer would have checked every point.
self-portrait
No further update.
shevy-java
Is that useful for anything?
modzu
i do wonder if the world would be a better place if instead of lawyers we had cage matches
I like how, even when the whole point is to not have any terms or conditions, there are still disclaimers. "Only for lawful purposes," "no warranty," "we are not responsible."
Those are still terms and conditions!
I wonder how many one-sentence prompts have made it to the HN front page at this point.
> By accessing or using this site, you acknowledge and accept the following terms.
I’m pretty sure this is already questionable in the EU.
Prior art: https://github.com/sorat0mo/wtfpl/blob/master/WTFPL2.txt
A similar one I made a while back, inspired by South Park's disclaimer before each episode: https://github.com/jmrossy/south-park-license
Comedically, this doesn't load from my IP address in the Russian Federation. (HN does.)
No alarms, no surprises
Remember when people started using WTFPL because it "sounded good", only to later find out it left them and their users legally liable? This is that but for websites.
Schrödingers terms and conditions
The URL basically nulls the license agreement.
I know this is mostly parody, but I'm curious if anyone has good starter templates for something that covers the general stuff and doesn't require a lawyer to customize
amazing how such a simple website lags to scroll on my phone
> Access is not conditioned on approval.
The Zen Koan of T&C's.
goes without saying
that this site definitely
does not, legally
Hope this slop doesn’t get anyone into trouble.
Not sure “last updated=never” works, but I don’t make terms and conditions websites.This does not read like it was written by a professional. Non-professionals writing licenses and T&Cs cause problems because no organization, for profit or not, wants to be dragged into court to get a "common sense" definition of a word or comma defined, at their expense.
I've heard of large organizations reaching out to places who use amateur T&Cs and licenses, saying "if we give you $X, can you dual license this as MIT, Apache, BSD, or hell anything standard?".
> Access is not conditioned on approval
Is this obvious enough legalese to not waste tens of thousands of dollars in legal fees if you get sued?
Note before you reply: I will not argue with you about how obvious it is. If you are actually a lawyer then it'd be interesting to hear your guidance, which I very much understand is not legal advice. If you're not a lawyer then I'm not.
Just today I asked an LLM:
"Often one generation values things much more than others. Boomers and their wristwatches. One generation is like 'only from my cold dead hands,' the others 'what would I even need this for?!' What are examples of things the youngest generation did away with?"
If OP were a checklist, the answer would have checked every point.
No further update.
Is that useful for anything?
i do wonder if the world would be a better place if instead of lawyers we had cage matches
hugged to death
Last updated: never lol
brilliant !