I am not sure I fully understand the usability trade-offs when it comes to these "atomic" distros. One the one hand, security seems to improve markedly, since the root filesystem is largely immutable. On the other hand, it does seem that a lot of straightforward things become harder. I generally dislike flatpaks and favor a low-level, bare-metal approach to things and atomic distros seem to go against that. Maybe I should just run some experiments in a VM.
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quantummagic
This web page doesn't do a good job of motivating the reader.
I understand what the Plasma Desktop Environment is. But what is "atomic and transactional Linux"? What are the advantages to the alternatives? What other projects are similar? What is the motivation for this project in particular? Most importantly, why should I want to use it?
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raphinou
I've installed https://getaurora.dev/en/, another atomic Linux distro, for a non technical user and find it really good. I've read arguments that its architecture was better than kalpa, but I don't find it back and I have no sufficient knowledge or experience of both to have an opinion.
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999900000999
This is a cool idea, but it’s not clear what problem it’s solving. Tumbleweed is already great
Kalpa is great and hits way above its alpha status; I've been running it on my laptop for months now with zero issues. It's been really nice to not have to worry about updates, just gotta reboot it every now and then and most things just work.
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sherr
This appears to be a "pre-beta" site, so this will be why it is not polished yet. From the documentation page :
"note: These installation instructions will be changing, with the Beta release of Kalpa"
A bit rough around the edges - so probably unfair to publicise too prominently yet.
giancarlostoro
I wanted to try an Atomic Linux, I think I tried the Fedora flavor, nothing really worked for me for some reason, I gave in to Arch and tried it a la EndeavourOS. Have not looked back since.
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dizhn
Interesting they are hosting on codeberg. Opensuse has a pretty established hosting/build architecture provided by Suse.
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sach1
This rules but the landing page could benefit from a Download Now type button for the iso page.
KeyBoardG
Are they still managing versions and rollback via BTRFS snapshots?
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shevy-java
Isn't OpenSUSE for sale? At the least distrowatch said this recently.
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butILoveLife
Has anyone had a good long term experience with Atomic?
I admittedly only used it on a 13 year old gaming computer and couldn't get the GPU drivers because... you know containers.
This is something trivial with a regular install. (Especially with LLMs to assist)
I want to like Atomic, but it feels like an Apple-like regression in computing.
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TiredOfLife
What's with the Ventoy hate. Every linux distro can be installed with Ventoy except for SuSe ones
I am not sure I fully understand the usability trade-offs when it comes to these "atomic" distros. One the one hand, security seems to improve markedly, since the root filesystem is largely immutable. On the other hand, it does seem that a lot of straightforward things become harder. I generally dislike flatpaks and favor a low-level, bare-metal approach to things and atomic distros seem to go against that. Maybe I should just run some experiments in a VM.
This web page doesn't do a good job of motivating the reader.
I understand what the Plasma Desktop Environment is. But what is "atomic and transactional Linux"? What are the advantages to the alternatives? What other projects are similar? What is the motivation for this project in particular? Most importantly, why should I want to use it?
I've installed https://getaurora.dev/en/, another atomic Linux distro, for a non technical user and find it really good. I've read arguments that its architecture was better than kalpa, but I don't find it back and I have no sufficient knowledge or experience of both to have an opinion.
This is a cool idea, but it’s not clear what problem it’s solving. Tumbleweed is already great
This blog post might provide useful context: https://sfalken.tech/posts/2024-06-08-how-do-aeon-and-kalpa-...
A screenshot is the bare minimum for such things.
Kalpa is great and hits way above its alpha status; I've been running it on my laptop for months now with zero issues. It's been really nice to not have to worry about updates, just gotta reboot it every now and then and most things just work.
This appears to be a "pre-beta" site, so this will be why it is not polished yet. From the documentation page :
"note: These installation instructions will be changing, with the Beta release of Kalpa"
A bit rough around the edges - so probably unfair to publicise too prominently yet.
I wanted to try an Atomic Linux, I think I tried the Fedora flavor, nothing really worked for me for some reason, I gave in to Arch and tried it a la EndeavourOS. Have not looked back since.
Interesting they are hosting on codeberg. Opensuse has a pretty established hosting/build architecture provided by Suse.
This rules but the landing page could benefit from a Download Now type button for the iso page.
Are they still managing versions and rollback via BTRFS snapshots?
Isn't OpenSUSE for sale? At the least distrowatch said this recently.
Has anyone had a good long term experience with Atomic?
I admittedly only used it on a 13 year old gaming computer and couldn't get the GPU drivers because... you know containers.
This is something trivial with a regular install. (Especially with LLMs to assist)
I want to like Atomic, but it feels like an Apple-like regression in computing.
What's with the Ventoy hate. Every linux distro can be installed with Ventoy except for SuSe ones