Microscopes can see video on a laserdisc

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BobMcBob

Tech Tangents is one of the best retro channels on youtube but by retro I dont mean glorified nostalgia either. Shelby puts a lot of work into his videos and likes to showcase what awesome engineering went into some of the early tech that was practically magic. Love the channel and glad to see it on HN.

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geon

As I understand it, this only works with still images that scroll vertically.

Each revolution is one frame, so if you compare the data paths next to each other, they don't make up an image but the same single line of several consecutive frames.

Scrolling a still image makes the same line on the screen cover a different part of the image each frame, so you can sort of make out what the original image looked like.

The end credits should show up as a single tall image, since the only limit to the height is the radius of the disc.

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throwaway27448

Is there a version that doesn't require watching a video please? This would be 10x faster and easier as a text blob

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rustyhancock

Here's a screen capture of the end credits visible on the disc the videos worth it but I do think sometimes you need to start with the money shot https://ibb.co/v4KK88fF

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VorpalWay

The live stream of this had more interesting things as well, such as looking at the ink on mimeographs compared to inkjet printing. Long and rambly as live streams tend to be, but it is there if anyone cares.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zIsCswtkozI (mimeograph around 3:36:00 mark)

onnimonni

I'm not that familiar with CED but the fact that we can see the images with microscopes is because these are analog discs? And that was because computing power back then was non-existent so they didn't use any kind of compression?

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csours

Not nearly as cool, but I was able to show a colleague the letters in a raster image section of a pdf using xxd by varying the output width

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smusamashah

So CAV (constant angular velocity) is an encoding format for laser disks. When something is written with CAV, it is basically analogue data and therefore repeating patterns can be recognized on the disk.

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ralferoo

Actually amazing being able to read the text like that, and on two different types of discs. Great video, was much better than I was expecting it to be from the title!

luzionlighting

Interesting to see how optical technology has evolved. In lighting design we also deal a lot with how light interacts with surfaces, lenses and reflectors.

Even small changes in optics can drastically change how light spreads or how uniform illumination appears in a space.

amelius

But the opto mechanical parts of a laserdisc reader are way more interesting than a microscope.

oofbey

Fun fact about laser discs. They are analogue not digital. CD’s store digital information with the presence or absence of pits. Fairly ancient but still fundamentally feels like a very old version of a thumb drive.

Laser discs are not digital. They encode the analogue video signal’s value as the length of the pit. It is digitized in the time domain - sampled at some frequency, but the “vertical” signal value is stored entirely analogue. In terms of encoding it’s more similar to a VHS tape than a CD. Kinda crazy.

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IAmGraydon

Just an aside - I love that he's using The Mind's Eye (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0167285/), which is a video that really captured my imagination when I was young (along with Beyond the Mind's Eye) and changed the course of my life as it got me into 3D animation at a young age.

SV_BubbleTime

Very cool but, I was hoping he was going to spin it and align with the camera’s refresh rate.

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Aardwolf

Now I wonder if something similar is possible with the magnetic fields on VHS tape

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