I accidentally hit the wrong button a few weeks ago and upgraded to Tahoe. I didn't think it was that big a deal at the time, I'd just been putting it off.
But having used it for a few weeks now I can confirm it is a strict downgrade over Sequoia for me. I use none of the new features it has introduced, and the changes to existing features are just worse.
Some UI animations are slow and jittery - and this is on an M4 Pro. The Finder has gone from fine to janky once again, especially with horizontal scroll. The window corners and mouse interactions are indeed annoying (I'd assumed the many complaints were at least slight hyperbole). Left-aligned window titles are unbalanced and ugly. I've had weird (visual) app duplication issues with the Application smart-folder in the Dock. Cross-device copy-paste SEEMS to be more flaky than usual. And most petty of all I really don't like the new icons - especially the Trash icon for some reason.
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fidotron
Same problem here.
Linux + KDE surpassed Windows many years ago, now I find I also prefer it to the Mac laptops, which are otherwise better only for portability.
Apple need to get their software act together. Such a shame because the hardware is awesome. A near perfect inversion of the era of Tiger on the G4.
pier25
It's much easier to simply use this with whatever date you prefer:
I'm also annoyed by the Tahoe update notifications. I understand the concern about installation scripts that fetch from external sources — that can be harmful, even if the repo owner or article author is trustworthy. There's always a risk of hijacking.
I analyzed the GitHub repo. The main files are three short shell scripts, and I confirmed:
1. No network calls — doesn't download anything from external sources
2. No background services — no LaunchAgents or daemons installed
3. No data exfiltration — doesn't send data anywhere
4. Reversible — provides an uninstall script
5. Transparent — all code is plain bash scripts and XML
6. Uses official Apple APIs — only uses the /usr/bin/profiles system command
7. Standard security practices — includes CI validation, shellcheck linting, and SHA256 checksums
Folks who are tired of the update notifications can use this with confidence.
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crazygringo
> Which means I have the joy of seeing things like this wonderful notification on a regular basis.
Weird, I haven't seen that once. I wonder what explains the difference?
thecopy
Im planning on getting the new M5 MBP i expect to be released next week. Is it possible to downgrade? I assume it comes with Tahoe :(
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hhh
People really just need to upgrade man. It’s fine in almost every case.
I accidentally hit the wrong button a few weeks ago and upgraded to Tahoe. I didn't think it was that big a deal at the time, I'd just been putting it off.
But having used it for a few weeks now I can confirm it is a strict downgrade over Sequoia for me. I use none of the new features it has introduced, and the changes to existing features are just worse.
Some UI animations are slow and jittery - and this is on an M4 Pro. The Finder has gone from fine to janky once again, especially with horizontal scroll. The window corners and mouse interactions are indeed annoying (I'd assumed the many complaints were at least slight hyperbole). Left-aligned window titles are unbalanced and ugly. I've had weird (visual) app duplication issues with the Application smart-folder in the Dock. Cross-device copy-paste SEEMS to be more flaky than usual. And most petty of all I really don't like the new icons - especially the Trash icon for some reason.
Same problem here.
Linux + KDE surpassed Windows many years ago, now I find I also prefer it to the Mac laptops, which are otherwise better only for portability.
Apple need to get their software act together. Such a shame because the hardware is awesome. A near perfect inversion of the era of Tiger on the G4.
It's much easier to simply use this with whatever date you prefer:
I'm also annoyed by the Tahoe update notifications. I understand the concern about installation scripts that fetch from external sources — that can be harmful, even if the repo owner or article author is trustworthy. There's always a risk of hijacking.
I analyzed the GitHub repo. The main files are three short shell scripts, and I confirmed:
1. No network calls — doesn't download anything from external sources
2. No background services — no LaunchAgents or daemons installed
3. No data exfiltration — doesn't send data anywhere
4. Reversible — provides an uninstall script
5. Transparent — all code is plain bash scripts and XML
6. Uses official Apple APIs — only uses the /usr/bin/profiles system command
7. Standard security practices — includes CI validation, shellcheck linting, and SHA256 checksums
Folks who are tired of the update notifications can use this with confidence.
> Which means I have the joy of seeing things like this wonderful notification on a regular basis.
Weird, I haven't seen that once. I wonder what explains the difference?
Im planning on getting the new M5 MBP i expect to be released next week. Is it possible to downgrade? I assume it comes with Tahoe :(
People really just need to upgrade man. It’s fine in almost every case.