&gt; These spyware companies hype themselves upSame applies to other industries too btw, in drones world, so many companies that you see their names with multi billions contracts, but if you open the hood and see their hardware&#x2F;software, it’s built on top of everyday open source tools duct taped together with some UI, and sales selling it as the next big (insert buzzword here) thing ever!

As it turns out, you just can’t make malware for targets like these much better.

From one Twitter user:&gt; It&#x27;s just a demo instance, but, these front ends are barely revealed to the publicThis genuinely doesn&#x27;t look any different from the control panels of commercial infostealers and RATs sold on Russian hacking forums. Those usually sell for between $200 and $20,000 depending on features and pricing model (one-time vs. ongoing subscription).These spyware companies hype themselves up, but they&#x27;re really not any different from Ivan&#x27;s RAT-as-a-Service, besides having extra exploits to burn and wealthier customers.

You must be new. The Constitution is an irrelevant piece of toilet paper now.The first amendment only protects you unless the people in power say it doesn&#x27;t. The government will pressure private companies to censor you. This was provably demonstrated under the Biden administration.The second amendment is useless. One third to half of the country doesn&#x27;t recognize the right to keep the majority of the useful arms that exist, nor the right to bear them in any meaningful way. The (Republican-leaning) Supreme Court has decided that states requiring permission slips to exercise a right is a totally valid precedent. The Republican district attorney for D.C. proudly states that having a gun there for any reason is an immediate offense. Donald Trump has been recorded suggesting to take guns from people before due process. And that&#x27;s ignoring the Democrats&#x27; unfathomably large track record against this amendment. I just wanted to include the fact that neither side actually supports this amendment, as much as people like to believe.Third amendment is pretty obscure in our era. So far, at least. But you could make the roundabout argument that the Biden admin preventing landlords from evicting their unpaying tenants, particularly if those tenants were currently or previously employed by the military, would violate this amendment.Fourth amendment doesn&#x27;t matter anymore. We have entire government agencies whose primary purpose is to ignore this amendment. It&#x27;s not even a conspiracy, nor a conspiracy theory. They do it in plain sight, and everyone knows, but apparently nobody cares (in which case why does the amendment even matter). Also, as long as the government gets the data from private companies (even if by force), that apparently doesn&#x27;t constitute a fourth amendment violation these days.Fifth amendment: civil asset forfeiture is disgustingly rampant all across the country. Not enough people know about it or care.Sixth amendment: the term &quot;speedy&quot; regarding trials is an extremely loose one, especially now. Especially considering the government is apparently allowed to hold you indefinitely without an actual trial, without facing any repercussions.Eighth amendment: judges impart excess fines quite often. See the Alex Jones case.Ninth amendment: completely irrelevant now. If the government believes they have the right, though not explicitly enumerated, then they have the right.

It&#x27;s too bad that &quot;The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized&quot; has become &quot;we can download a full copy of all of your files at any time, or continually, if we feel like it, even if we don&#x27;t suspect you of a crime&quot;.

This company btw for anyone else who had not heard of them before (there are a lot of companies by that name): <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Paragon_Solutions" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Paragon_Solutions</a>

The original linkedin post is deleted? Is there a way to recover it? Did anyone archive?

Non-X link: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;archive.is&#x2F;kqvnH" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;archive.is&#x2F;kqvnH</a>

Looks like image was removed and maybe only a demo?

The world has not decided that spyware can&#x27;t be produced. Mostly, the powers that be treat it like weapons of war.That is, companies can make and sell it as long as they only sell it to governments and only the ones that we like.

The general public might be clear that spyware is evil, but governments use it extensively: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Pegasus_Project_(investigation)" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Pegasus_Project_(investigation...</a>

What is allowed to companies is not allowed to private citizens. If you want to systematically break copyright laws or steal data from people, do it as Joe&#x27;s LLC. Joe would go to prison for copyright infringement or hacking other people, Joe&#x27;s LLC can do as it please.

Can somebody please explain to an idiot (me) how is this possible for this to keep going? I thought that the world has decided that spyware is illegal and can&#x27;t be produced. Is this company related to israeli government? If not, why is it allowed to function?

Certainly very hard to defend against that when the messenger you&#x27;re using won&#x27;t let you use a device you control.

Surprising that end-to-end encryption doesn&#x27;t really matter when you get into one of the ends.

&gt;The message can&#x27;t be intercepted in transitLol, so like ... all encryption schemes since the 70s?

The message can&#x27;t be intercepted in transit, since we are talking about spyware, I assume they get it from the device, hard to defend against that if they have access to your process&#x27; memory space.

It’s performative security, when an app still requires a phone number, can’t have your own server, and all these audits are meaningless as you might have memory injected spyware later, it is NOT secure, never was.

I see there&#x27;s some room for ambiguity.See, <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Moxie_Marlinspike" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Moxie_Marlinspike</a>

Awesome.Moxie&#x27;s &quot;unbreakable&quot; end-to-end communication protocol.

Paragon accidentally uploaded a photo of its spyware control panel