This is pulling the content of the RSS feeds of several news sites into the context window of an LLM and then asking it to summarize news items into articles and fill in the blanks?
I'm asking because that is what it looks like, but AI / LLMs are not specifically mentioned in this blog post, they just say news are 'generated' under the 'News in your language' heading, which seems to imply that is what they are doing.
I'm a little skeptical towards the approach, when you ask an LLM to point to 'sources' for the information it outputs, as far as I know there is no guarantee that those are correct – and it does seem like sometimes they just use pure LLM output, as no sources are cited, or it's quoted as 'common knowledge'.
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Nition
These extra features seem well-intentioned, but it also reminds me a little of Firefox adding all these features like Pocket and the new AI summary bot when all people are really getting the product for is a good browser. Or in Kagi's case, good search.
You could argue the search side of Kagi is already "done", but there are still some basic features that aren't added yet. For example other search engines have an alternative URL that prevents disabling safe search, so that safe search can be enforced at a DNS level (e.g. Google has forcesafesearch.google.com. Bing has strict.bing.com). That feature has been in their feedback request tracker since May 2022 and was recently moved back from Planned to Under Review ("Not off the table, but we haven't committed to implementing this at this time", says the admin).
Kagi might be feeling a bit threatened by AI taking users from traditional search engines, but I really like Kagi and use it all the time. I do hope my subscription money is going mostly towards search, though.
ivanjermakov
> One daily update: We publish once per day around noon UTC, creating a natural endpoint to news consumption. This is a deliberate design choice that turns news from an endless habit into a contained ritual.
I might not agree with all decisions Kagi makes, but this is gold. Endless scrolling is a big indicator that you're a consumer not a customer.
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buster
Kagi seems to be one of the few companies that put out services, genuinely trying to fix things with good intent. I hope it stays that way.
(I was very skeptical about Kagi Assistant but now i am a happy Kagi Ultimate subscriber).
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alphazard
What everyone gets wrong about news curation is thinking people want the same news as everyone else, or "both sides" of a situation, or whatever mechanism for exposing them to things that someone else thinks are true.
What I actually want is a curated set of things that are useful to me personally given my situation.
The most important things about my situation to give me useful news are things like: net worth, income, citizenship, family situation, where I live, what industries I work in, current investments, travel destinations, regulatory and political risks associated with any of those things, etc.
Because those are the things that dictate how the parts of the world I can't control are going to affect me (especially if I don't react).
I don't want to hear about random things that aren't going to affect me when I'm looking at the news.
Sometimes I want to learn new random/useless things for fun, but that's a leisure activity. It's totally separate from the "news", which is a thing that adults consume as a chore to better plan their lives.
The fundamental problem is that myself and others are not going to willing give out the personal information required to curate useful news feeds, so the news will always be filled with noise.
Maybe local AI can help with that.
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fresh_broccoli
I think this is the wrong direction. We need better journalism, not better summarizing aggregators.
Summaries are no substitute for real articles, even if they're generated by hand (and these apparently are not). Summaries are bound to strip the information of context, important details and analysis. There's also no accountability for the contents.
Sure, there are links to the actual articles, but let's not kid ourselves that most people are going to read them. Why would they need a summarizing service otherwise? Especially if there are 20 sources of varying quality.
There are no "lifehacks" to getting informed. I'll be harsh: this service strikes me as informationally illiterate person's idea of what getting informed is like.
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tower-shield
I like Kagi and want them to succeed. But currently (according to LinkedIn) theres 26 employees. They are building search, LLM assistant wrappers, a browser and now news. Please don't overextend the same way Proton is currently doing.
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28304283409234
As a paying customer of kagi (family account) it saddens me to see my money spent this way.
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unshavedyak
I like this a lot, going to try it! One issue i have though is in the current world of LLMs scraping content, i'd prefer there to be more discussion about compensation of authors.
I know the announcement page talks about not scraping, but to me personally the value i see in this product is that i don't have to go to those ad ridden, poorly organized and often terrible pages of the authors. Which then seems really unfair to the actual content providers.
I'd like to see this type of service cost $3-5/m ontop of my normal Kagi sub to compensate the authors of the articles i read. A Streaming Music model for news, ish.
This proposed value is quite small, but my assumption is only a very small amount of money would reach them from my ad views anyway so a $10/m addition feels extreme to me.
medstrom
> One daily update: We publish once per day around noon UTC, creating a natural endpoint to news consumption. This is a deliberate design choice that turns news from an endless habit into a contained ritual.
Could you guys maybe print it on paper and send it to my physical mailbox, so I can do this ritual with breakfast? :-)
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alexsmirnov
Funny coincidence. This morning, my news aggregator delivered its daily results. The stack:
Miniflux (https://miniflux.app/) in Docker, fetching 75 RSS feeds I've collected over the years
~200 lines in a Jupyter notebook:
- Fetch entries from Miniflux API (last 24-48 hours)
- Convert to CSV, feed to LLM. GPT-5 identifies trending stories across sources
- Each article gets web-fetched and summarized via Gemini-2.5-flash
- Results render via IPython.display
Ten minutes per day, fully informed.
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ugoasidjg
Kagi, I'm willing to pay if you hire people to fact check the generated articles. Or maybe have the community fact check and visually distinguish checked sentences from unchecked sentences.
Animats
Nice, but navigation is awful. After reading a story, the back button doesn't take you back to the table of contents.
(Edit) Now I see. You have to scroll through the story and click "Close story" to get back. It's "mobile first".
daveoc64
The World section seems to have a heavy bias towards news from the USA.
The UK section seems to have a heavy bias towards news from Scotland.
It looks too simplistic for me to actually use.
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sciencejerk
Haters gonna hate, but I just downloaded Kagi News and LOVE it.
I want to QUICKLY see all the news headlines and drill deeper in as needed, and Kagi News seems to do exactly this.
rfarley04
lol I added 'trump', 'republican', and 'democrat' as custom filter keywords and now it's showing zero stories in the USA category. So apparently, that category is a stand in for politics? Although I have the Thai category enabled (since I live there) and that's all run of the mill national (non political) news.
Nice release nonetheless!
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skybrian
Do the checkmarks do anything? I expected them to disappear after a reload (like hiding a post on Hacker News), but apparently that's not what they're for.
"Mark as read" checks all the checkmarks, but since they're still there after a reload, I don't see the point.
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amarant
I really like this!
I do wish I could have better control of what languages I'm getting. Right now the option is to either translate everything or nothing. I'd prefer news in their original, untranslated form if it's one of the 4 languages I speak, otherwise translate them to English.
I added the category "Israel" and everything was in Hebrew, so I had to set my language to English, but now news in my native Swedish are translated to English and I have to kind of translate it back in my head as I read them.
It's not the end of the world, but it seems like fairly low-hanging fruit!
zkmon
There is a more fundamental problem here. The news feeds are going in this direction for a reason. I don't think you addressed that reason.
You have defined the desirable news as "pure, essential information". What's that again? How do you know what's pure and essential info for any user? The traditional news media had started there, with that pure news, and ended up here where they are today.
Ultimately, you will realize that your content need to grab attention enough so that people consume your feed. People's attention goes to where things look weird, exciting, sensational, emotional, trivia, gossip etc. You can't do away with all that and just dish out the pure and essential info. It didn't work. People tried it.
W0lfEagle
I really like this for practising a foreign language by switching the content language. I do agree with other comments here though that it will need greater control over which languages are translated.
joshstrange
I wish there was a way to look at a previous day's news. I can't seem to find any buttons/UI that lets you look at news from any day but today.
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numbsafari
This is awesome. Only thing that is missing is a place for me to ask a question from Kagi Assistant about the current story I am looking at, using the story as part of the context of my question.
There is also a list of "citations" which are referenced from the generated text, and "sources" which are not referenced anywhere. It's not clear if they used reddit or reuters to generate any of the text.
I also see lots of citations to "common knowledge"... which is um, weird.
For example:
> National Guard activation: Guard forces can serve under state control (Title 32) or be federalized (Title 10), which determines who directs missions and the scope of authority [*].
Is this common knowledge?
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stared
Nice to see an approach to reduce doomscrolling (for myself, and most of my bubble, the biggest addiction, impacting productivity, mental health, and neck).
Yet, there is Hacker Newsletter (https://hackernewsletter.com/, which I like and use), there are others pointed by GPT5 that I don't Mailbrew and Digest. Kagi looks like the true former.
What I do want is personalization - not by picking interest, but actual personality, prompt, tastes, good enough that it puts something other, rather than only narrowing and narrowing my view. Yet high quality, rather than clickbaits and other "fluff". Otherwise, following a few Reddits would do the job (with some API to send emails).
What I would like even more is something that actually turns my social media into daily emails.
kevcampb
> This is pulling the content of the RSS feeds of several news sites into the context window of an LLM and then asking it to summarize news items into articles and fill in the blanks?
This is awful. It's cutting out any money going to the news agencies that go out there and write news. If they didn't exist, Kagi wouldn't work.
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ashivkum
Given that Orion (which I repeatedly attempt to daily drive due to the dearth of browsers meeting my requirements right now on macos) is still full of bugs that hamper usability, and seems to introduce new ones with every update, I don't know why Kagi insists on overextending itself like this. They just started porting their broken browser to Linux, they're creating a maps app, all while they clearly do not have the manpower to finish the projects they've already started.
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kkukshtel
One of the best news sites (still running) that I use frequently is http://68k.news/ - it's sort of like this minus the AI summary and info part of the article.
It's just plain text web 1.0 page that uses some ranking algo to figure out the top stores of a given day across categories, and shows that headline and under it similar headlines across different news sources.
It used to pull in RSS from the sources so you could also read the articles in plaintext, but that broke a bit ago and the dev hasn't fixed it.
Regardless, I still find it a great site to quickly get up to speed on top stories of the day!
But also I really like (and pay for!) Kagi so happily support their own effort here.
BatteryMountain
Between this app (kagi) and the Harmony hacknernews client, I'm super happy if this is my only content consumption on the internet/smartphone. The kagi app just needs a black/oled theme please, and can we bump the aricles from 12 to 20 or 30? 12 is just a tiny bit shy.
ctrlp
There is almost no good reason to keep up with current events in a "news feed" style. I'd maybe like a feed that has a 1 month window summarizing any news cycle that survived 3 days. If it came and went in one cycle, then just don't bother about it. Most of the news is just propaganda anyway. I suppose it's wise to have a sense of the "current thing" so you don't put your foot in it with colleagues who are inhabiting a tighter timeline than you are, but other than that there doesn't seem to be many use cases for keeping tabs in a news feed. Maybe if you're in the business of disrupting/reinforcing people's OODA loops you might need to know some of this stuff, but otherwise it's just a self-own to keep up with the news.
Very skeptical that this would work for me. None of the topics that Kagi chooses to "cover" in their seven or so stories for the day resonates with what I'd want to read. That's exactly why we have feeds that you can tune to your tastes and so on. Getting rid of endless scrolling and such might be a good thing though.
systemstops
Something similar that collects news from various sources, plus it adds social media context: https://truenorthnews.app/
patrakov
Feedback (if someone reads it): offer an option to translate everything to English. For example, news from/about Russia are in Russian, and thus I can't meaningfully share them to non-Russians.
That's despite the appropriate HTTP header:
Accept-Language: en-US,en;q=0.5
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k2enemy
I like 1440 (https://join1440.com) for this. Once a day daily email digest. I like the email format because I'm less likely to start clicking around compared to a web site, and it doesn't require a separate app.
I think it is human curated, but I'm not positive about that.
digest
Thanks for providing RSS feeds for Kagi -- just added them all to https://usedigest.com so users can use this as a drop-in replacement for their news instead of adding various RSS feeds from other news outlets.
lagrange77
Awesome, i like it a lot!
Some UX friction i noticed:
To get back to the homepage from an article, i have to click on the article headline. While this is elegant and you likely get used to it, once you know it, it's not exactly intuitive.
msqinfo
Just plugging my service, https://mosaique.info/. It only uses an LLM to generate a short summary, and other ML algorithms structure the information (comments from officials and experts, classification...).
I'm currently working on a major overhaul to provide more holistic context around news by better surfacing less-discussed events.
chrisweekly
Happy paying Kagi subscriber here. Rock on, Kagi.
al_borland
I’ve been using this for a few days now. I stumbled across it in the App Store last week.
I hoping this can fill a gap for me currently. I want something that will give me broad awareness of big news I should probably know about, that’s not a 24 hour firehose of news.
I like the once-per-day update and the relatively short list of stories. The jury is still out on how sticky it will be, in terms of being my go-to place for a daily update.
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andhuman
Nice idea, I’ve been toying around the idea of consuming news only once per day. But for me I think I want an actual newspaper with in depth articles rather than short news posts from online news.
guybedo
i'm doing something like this, summarizing HN posts because most of the time when there's hundreds or thousands of comments, it's not possible to read everything and i feel like i'm missing something.
So far, i quite enjoy having a summary with bullet points.
Given that this news is generated I have no idea why the default would be to be in the native language of the sources. And if that makes any sense I would need to be able to select multiple languages I want to read in because I can’t read all languages.
kylehotchkiss
I really like the balance here. No "brand names" in the headline summaries, no imagery or videos on the homepage, summarize multiple sources. It's daily so no need to refresh.
I've been really enjoying Semafor's emails too, but their 2x a day is tough for me to keep up with. I'll try to get a habit of looking at Kagi News to stay informed.
hughes
I don't understand how this is 100% free, no subscriptions, no purchase, apparently no ads or tracking and yet I'm also the "customer" and not the product. What's the catch?
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drewbitt
I’m probably online too much, but a lot of the news I see is from yesterday. Supposedly it just refreshed with today’s news, but does that really clear out anything older if some outlets publish their stories later than others? I would not describe some of this as "today's headlines"
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jwitchel
I've been using Kagi search for a while now and frankly it's fantastic. Google looks like AOL to me now.
These guys are doing great work and this news product is exactly what I want... Once a day hit. What is happening in the world? As far as pmf goes they hit the mark for an old fart like me.
Gives me a good high-level view of the news. I'm a Kagi customer and I definitely don't want anything they do with the news.
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maelito
It's funny how awkward the French version is.
- Parquet de Paris ouvre 24 enquêtes pour menaces
- Update: famille et experte ADN au procès Jubillar
- Intersyndicale appelle à la grève du 2 octobre
This won't be used by French speakers as is.
tuckwat
It actually seems nice. I realize Reddit is not a news source but it used to be a great way to see current events and get level-headed takes on those events. This approach could be a better non-biased* alternative.
* for now
atonse
I LOVE this. The app feels very clean, the data's presented beautifully, and it hasn't been enshittified yet. And hopefully never will, because I pay Kagi in hopes that they don't.
I feel this is what Apple News should've been. Instead it's just god-awful ad-filled mess of news articles. And the only reason I have it is because of Apple One. But it is a clearly neglected product.
I also pay for ground news but it hasn't met my expectations, mostly because there's a lot of redundancy with wire stories. Like it'll show 50 sources but they're all just regurgitating the same AP or Reuters article. So it skews the "bias"
flyer23
I AM using it for a long time, its brilliant but as any ai can hallucinate. Joining 4 separate technical topics about 4 different companies and initiatives is funny but misleading. Wont go back though - HN+Kite is all I do.
kubafu
This but let me choose over what period I want news summarised. Daily is too often, even week is (at least to me).
Let me open the app once a month and see a summary of what has happened over it.
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guilamu
Looks pretty good at first sight.
However, I set my feed up on the web app, seeing that it should sync on "all my devices".
Next, I installed the Android app, and mybe I missed something, but I don't see any way to connect to my Kagi account.
So much for syncing...
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mr_machine
I'd like to install and try this, but I don't use Google Play and it's not in F-Droid. Wish they'd just make an APK available.
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user_7832
Mini feedback - it appears to report google news results as if from google and not the website in question (Wired in my case, the snapdragon x2 elite article).
Apart from that, it's really nice! Good job, kagi team!
numbers
I really like the once-a-day updates, makes it so that I can drop in and check on the news but not constantly refreshing for updates.
Vexowsky
I liked Kagi, was paying for it for a few months, but $10 is just too much
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sktrdie
Cool but how does it compare to something like subreddits? There are still biased moderators behind the scene just like subreddits. Seems to not have the upvoting/downvoting side of it which imo is crucial to democratize the entire thing.
I think upvoting/downvoting is a crucial aspect to news/information/knowledge. But we've been doing it with just numbers all along. Why not experiment with weights or more complex voting methods? Ex: my reputation is divided in categories - I'm more an expert in history then politics hence my vote towards historical subjects have more weights. Feels like that's the next big step for news. Instead of just another centralized aggregator?
No offense to the cool system and website though
charv
I love everything that Kagi has put out. The Orion browser rocks (recently replaced Brave, good riddance) and my go-to chatbot today is the Kagi Assistant with Kimi K2 connected to the internet.
I tended towards Axios but lately it's gotten a bit paywalled and less informative. Can't wait to incorporate Kagi News into my daily workflow.
Sweepi
"Indonesia school collapse leaves 38 missing, 77 hurt" is categorized as "Disaster".
I cannot see where to disable this category.
mac-attack
Big news junkie but I don't feel the need to buy into Kagi's ecosphere personally as a SearXNG user. The article touches on signal over noise and I have found two solutions that work for me as a news junkie:
News Minimalist [1] and Boring Report [2]. Both aggregate news and (IMO) most importantly provide links from multiple outlets for the same stories. Really made me notice the clickbait and allows me to be more selective in choosing reputable sources.
Both use AI, with the former ranking news based on importance, while the latter summarizes articles. (That doesn't feel useful for supporting journalism as a whole so I typically click through and read the articles unless I don't like the outlet reporting)
It's good. And always happy to see SvelteKit in action.
smlacy
This looks awesome, but there's absolutely no way I'm installing an app for this, sorry.
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sam0x17
one quick little usability thing, clicking the logo on the web version doesn't bring me back to the main page
liquid_thyme
Is the future where we pay a premium for human generated content?
larodi
I doubt anything comes close to Perplexity News at the moment, its truly amazing.
not--felix
I'm biased because I build my own RSS reader[0] and I feel that with this approach the thing I love the most about RSS, to follow small niche sources gets lost. That said, I think for big news it could be great.
When I filter on Kirk, I get No Results Found - seems legit.
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imiric
I've been using this since the beta launch, and I really like it. They're spot on about news being broken.
That said, I do think the service could be improved. Often the summary is a very short blurb that forces me to go to one of the original sites for the content, and hopefully land on one that is not obnoxious to use, which kind of defeats the purpose. The event timeline sounds interesting, but when it essentially shows 2 or 3 events that are obvious from the context, it's not so useful in practice. I always skip the "Quick questions" section, since it reads like an elementary school report, and the questions are really basic. How about letting me ask the questions I want?
Also:
> We don’t scrape content from websites. Instead, we use publicly available RSS feeds that publishers choose to provide.
I think this is a mistake. Most publishers are hostile to RSS and often don't offer it. Scraping is, unfortunately, a requirement if you want to consume public content on your own terms, which is the entire point of this service. Besides, scraping is how all search engines generate their index, so as long as the bot is well behaved and doesn't hammer the site, follows robots.txt or perhaps even bends the rules a bit, it should be fine. I would rather Kagi wasn't so respectful of publishers' wishes, if that would allow them to offer a better service. I understand if they want to avoid getting in trouble with publishers, but the alternative would be better for their users.
matcha-video
Similar to ground.news or thenewpaper.co ?
insane_dreamer
Every single news aggregation services promises the same "signal over noise" and "just the facts". I'm so numb from hearing that, that I don't believe it anymore.
I do however like the fact that Kagi only pushes _once_ a day. Drinking from the firehose is physically and mentally exhausting. Even daily feels like too much these days other than a quick check to make sure the world didn't implode or the Rapture happened while I was busy trying to get CC to behave.
davelacy
Nice design. I like the "today in history" feature
that "Kagi News" is at the top of "Hacker News" speaks volumes about the state of the "hacker"
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TanishqSingla
The UI looks neat, can't wait to try this out
kkfx
I'd like to pay Kagi if I can submit my feeds and the insights from them, as I see from the portal now it's not that interesting...
acd
Any payments to journalists and news sites?
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richardanaya
I love Kagi!
artursapek
This rocks. I'm gonna start looking at it instead of NYTimes.
clcaev
What is the business model / exit strategy for Kagi's founders and investors? What is the news curation process and its relation to the public interest?
Are these articulated in a manner which gives stakeholders (investors, users, and staff) assurances and standing?
...
What are competitors and collaborators in this space? Semafor seems to have a similar product, what are the differentiators and/or collaboration opportunities?
...
Netflix was subscription only, till it was "pay to get rid of ads". Then there is the whole business of profiling customer interest, etc.
We have product labeling for food, why not web services?
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ElijahLynn
love love love how it doesn't infinite scroll!!!
ramesh31
>News is broken. We all know it, but we’ve somehow accepted it as inevitable.
News is broken because journalism is no longer a viable career path. No amount of RSS aggregators will fix that.
lyu07282
I never found the lowest most common denominator news "curation" to be at all interesting, let alone algorithmically driven ones. The issue with news has nothing to do with curation of mainstream media. There is very little value in reading a state department or law enforcement press release summarized by some overworked stenographer/journalist. Or some NGO's push to drive some nondescript narrative uncritically parroted. Or some SEO driven click bait or tragedy porn.
If you wanted to fix the news you'd begin by critically curating mainstream news and throwing 80% of it in the trash, then you'd add 80% of material and critical analysis back to the 20% that had none of that.
ta2112
Am I the only one thinking that "Cagey News" sounds like anti-marketing?
wewtyflakes
I'm just happy to be able to entirely remove topics like sports. Google News no longer lets you do this, and gleefully pushes topics on me even when I religiously press "Show fewer stories like this"; it is infuriating. No I do not care about celebrities or football; stop insisting that I do!
embit
Another one you can check out is one I have made for myself and used by friends [1], although only tech news.
It also uses more than 100 RSS feeds to aggregate the top 10 news every few hours. Also has tags that can be used to read topic related news.
"Community-driven sources: Our news sources are open source and community-curated through our public GitHub repository. Anyone can propose additions, flag problems, or suggest improvements."
This sounds like it's going to be a massive headache. Activists with nothing to do all day will be all over this, for their chance to try to have influence over what other people read.
guywithahat
One thing I found working on a startup which touched on the political sphere is people don't want curated lists imposed on them, they want to impose their curated lists on other people.
I like that it only provides the list once a day (I do think that's a clever feature), but the inability to influence bias seems like a mistake, especially since the sources already seem to follow a bias.
rsingel
Looks like yet another aggregator that will send almost no referral traffic to the folks who actually put labor into writing.
Parasitic by definition.
And embracing the news from nowhere perspective.
So both a parasite and boring at the same time.
I wish more tech folks who want to "fix the news" would learn from Gabe Rivera's Techmeme, Memeorandum, and Mediagazer.
He's done aggregation right for 20 years
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laweijfmvo
sites like these make me realize that i’m not all that interested in “news”, which might be a personal fault, but also makes you wonder what all the other “”news”” sites have been doing to capture my attention...
alexfromapex
Don't want to sound too contrarian, but I feel like having LLMs involved with the process of disseminating news is a bit dystopian.
jscd
This is honestly very disappointing. Not using LLMs, but the complete lack of transparency about their usage. You can already see in the repository issues related to hallucinations[^1]. This is _fine_, but not if you seem to obscure the fact that these can be very, very wrong. This seems to only be mentioned in the very brief loading screen and at the bottom of the about page[^2]. Also, apparently many of the "core RSS feeds" are just... reddit[^3]???
For me, this is only useful as a curated list of news feeds (and subreddits I guess), but nothing more.
This doesn’t really seem to touch on the problem I have with news, which is that it is all doom and gloom, FUD and outrage. The headlines I saw:
Trump, Congress deadlock as shutdown deadline nears
Taliban cuts internet nationwide, flights grounded in Afghanistan
Indonesia school collapse leaves 38 missing, 77 hurt
YouTube settles Trump suspension lawsuit for $24.5m
German court jails AfD aide for China spying
US deports 120 Iranians after deal
Russian drone strike kills family of four
Is this really what I need to know in the world? Am I saying “informed”? This is not helping the anxiety from reading news described in the article. This is not good for people.
d--b
or you could read the new york times
boxed
I think a fundamental issue with news is that it doesn't try to push people to have a more correct mental model of the world.
Some things that could change that:
- Deep fact checking. Community Notes on twitter do a better job at this than any other system I've seen. The reason it doesn't really work in practice is that the stream of misinformation and confusion is orders of magnitude larger than the Community Notes community. A news app should not have that scalability issue.
- Follow up. If I read something that later turns out to be false I need to be notified of that. This unfortunately requires that the app track what I have read.
- Context. If you have a news article about a stabbing, it sounds like stabbings are up. The context that they are going up or down statistically is extremely relevant. The lack of context can turn a tiny truth into a bigger lie.
- Deep confusion analysis. Figuring out where people are confused statistically and focusing on trying to manage that misinformation gap is not something that is dealt with at all. I would like to become LESS confused by information sources not more.
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the_real_cher
Trump just said we should use the military on American cities...and it's not reported in Kagi news. That's a showstopper for me.
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iLoveOncall
If I was giving my money to Kagi I'd be mad that they invest it in bullshit side products like this instead of search.
It seems like all their recent releases are just following into the AI hype.
TiredOfLife
Another russian disinfo laundering service.
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hshshshshsh
How did this get so many upvotes? Did I wake up in 2004?
charcircuit
RSS is a strange choice in 2025. As a search engine they are in the position to extract things from web pages themselves. They already need this capability in order to properly rank the page.
Just to be clear I'm understanding correctly:
This is pulling the content of the RSS feeds of several news sites into the context window of an LLM and then asking it to summarize news items into articles and fill in the blanks?
I'm asking because that is what it looks like, but AI / LLMs are not specifically mentioned in this blog post, they just say news are 'generated' under the 'News in your language' heading, which seems to imply that is what they are doing.
I'm a little skeptical towards the approach, when you ask an LLM to point to 'sources' for the information it outputs, as far as I know there is no guarantee that those are correct – and it does seem like sometimes they just use pure LLM output, as no sources are cited, or it's quoted as 'common knowledge'.
These extra features seem well-intentioned, but it also reminds me a little of Firefox adding all these features like Pocket and the new AI summary bot when all people are really getting the product for is a good browser. Or in Kagi's case, good search.
You could argue the search side of Kagi is already "done", but there are still some basic features that aren't added yet. For example other search engines have an alternative URL that prevents disabling safe search, so that safe search can be enforced at a DNS level (e.g. Google has forcesafesearch.google.com. Bing has strict.bing.com). That feature has been in their feedback request tracker since May 2022 and was recently moved back from Planned to Under Review ("Not off the table, but we haven't committed to implementing this at this time", says the admin).
Kagi might be feeling a bit threatened by AI taking users from traditional search engines, but I really like Kagi and use it all the time. I do hope my subscription money is going mostly towards search, though.
> One daily update: We publish once per day around noon UTC, creating a natural endpoint to news consumption. This is a deliberate design choice that turns news from an endless habit into a contained ritual.
I might not agree with all decisions Kagi makes, but this is gold. Endless scrolling is a big indicator that you're a consumer not a customer.
Kagi seems to be one of the few companies that put out services, genuinely trying to fix things with good intent. I hope it stays that way.
(I was very skeptical about Kagi Assistant but now i am a happy Kagi Ultimate subscriber).
What everyone gets wrong about news curation is thinking people want the same news as everyone else, or "both sides" of a situation, or whatever mechanism for exposing them to things that someone else thinks are true.
What I actually want is a curated set of things that are useful to me personally given my situation. The most important things about my situation to give me useful news are things like: net worth, income, citizenship, family situation, where I live, what industries I work in, current investments, travel destinations, regulatory and political risks associated with any of those things, etc.
Because those are the things that dictate how the parts of the world I can't control are going to affect me (especially if I don't react). I don't want to hear about random things that aren't going to affect me when I'm looking at the news. Sometimes I want to learn new random/useless things for fun, but that's a leisure activity. It's totally separate from the "news", which is a thing that adults consume as a chore to better plan their lives.
The fundamental problem is that myself and others are not going to willing give out the personal information required to curate useful news feeds, so the news will always be filled with noise. Maybe local AI can help with that.
I think this is the wrong direction. We need better journalism, not better summarizing aggregators.
Summaries are no substitute for real articles, even if they're generated by hand (and these apparently are not). Summaries are bound to strip the information of context, important details and analysis. There's also no accountability for the contents.
Sure, there are links to the actual articles, but let's not kid ourselves that most people are going to read them. Why would they need a summarizing service otherwise? Especially if there are 20 sources of varying quality.
There are no "lifehacks" to getting informed. I'll be harsh: this service strikes me as informationally illiterate person's idea of what getting informed is like.
I like Kagi and want them to succeed. But currently (according to LinkedIn) theres 26 employees. They are building search, LLM assistant wrappers, a browser and now news. Please don't overextend the same way Proton is currently doing.
As a paying customer of kagi (family account) it saddens me to see my money spent this way.
I like this a lot, going to try it! One issue i have though is in the current world of LLMs scraping content, i'd prefer there to be more discussion about compensation of authors.
I know the announcement page talks about not scraping, but to me personally the value i see in this product is that i don't have to go to those ad ridden, poorly organized and often terrible pages of the authors. Which then seems really unfair to the actual content providers.
I'd like to see this type of service cost $3-5/m ontop of my normal Kagi sub to compensate the authors of the articles i read. A Streaming Music model for news, ish.
This proposed value is quite small, but my assumption is only a very small amount of money would reach them from my ad views anyway so a $10/m addition feels extreme to me.
> One daily update: We publish once per day around noon UTC, creating a natural endpoint to news consumption. This is a deliberate design choice that turns news from an endless habit into a contained ritual.
Could you guys maybe print it on paper and send it to my physical mailbox, so I can do this ritual with breakfast? :-)
Funny coincidence. This morning, my news aggregator delivered its daily results. The stack:
Kagi, I'm willing to pay if you hire people to fact check the generated articles. Or maybe have the community fact check and visually distinguish checked sentences from unchecked sentences.
Nice, but navigation is awful. After reading a story, the back button doesn't take you back to the table of contents.
(Edit) Now I see. You have to scroll through the story and click "Close story" to get back. It's "mobile first".
The World section seems to have a heavy bias towards news from the USA.
The UK section seems to have a heavy bias towards news from Scotland.
It looks too simplistic for me to actually use.
Haters gonna hate, but I just downloaded Kagi News and LOVE it. I want to QUICKLY see all the news headlines and drill deeper in as needed, and Kagi News seems to do exactly this.
lol I added 'trump', 'republican', and 'democrat' as custom filter keywords and now it's showing zero stories in the USA category. So apparently, that category is a stand in for politics? Although I have the Thai category enabled (since I live there) and that's all run of the mill national (non political) news.
Nice release nonetheless!
Do the checkmarks do anything? I expected them to disappear after a reload (like hiding a post on Hacker News), but apparently that's not what they're for.
"Mark as read" checks all the checkmarks, but since they're still there after a reload, I don't see the point.
I really like this!
I do wish I could have better control of what languages I'm getting. Right now the option is to either translate everything or nothing. I'd prefer news in their original, untranslated form if it's one of the 4 languages I speak, otherwise translate them to English.
I added the category "Israel" and everything was in Hebrew, so I had to set my language to English, but now news in my native Swedish are translated to English and I have to kind of translate it back in my head as I read them.
It's not the end of the world, but it seems like fairly low-hanging fruit!
There is a more fundamental problem here. The news feeds are going in this direction for a reason. I don't think you addressed that reason.
You have defined the desirable news as "pure, essential information". What's that again? How do you know what's pure and essential info for any user? The traditional news media had started there, with that pure news, and ended up here where they are today.
Ultimately, you will realize that your content need to grab attention enough so that people consume your feed. People's attention goes to where things look weird, exciting, sensational, emotional, trivia, gossip etc. You can't do away with all that and just dish out the pure and essential info. It didn't work. People tried it.
I really like this for practising a foreign language by switching the content language. I do agree with other comments here though that it will need greater control over which languages are translated.
I wish there was a way to look at a previous day's news. I can't seem to find any buttons/UI that lets you look at news from any day but today.
This is awesome. Only thing that is missing is a place for me to ask a question from Kagi Assistant about the current story I am looking at, using the story as part of the context of my question.
The grounding is really strange.
This example includes a Reddit post as a source:
https://kite.kagi.com/s/hjgy55
But that post is actually a link to reuters.com
There is also a list of "citations" which are referenced from the generated text, and "sources" which are not referenced anywhere. It's not clear if they used reddit or reuters to generate any of the text.
I also see lots of citations to "common knowledge"... which is um, weird.
For example:
> National Guard activation: Guard forces can serve under state control (Title 32) or be federalized (Title 10), which determines who directs missions and the scope of authority [*].
Is this common knowledge?
Nice to see an approach to reduce doomscrolling (for myself, and most of my bubble, the biggest addiction, impacting productivity, mental health, and neck).
Yet, there is Hacker Newsletter (https://hackernewsletter.com/, which I like and use), there are others pointed by GPT5 that I don't Mailbrew and Digest. Kagi looks like the true former.
What I do want is personalization - not by picking interest, but actual personality, prompt, tastes, good enough that it puts something other, rather than only narrowing and narrowing my view. Yet high quality, rather than clickbaits and other "fluff". Otherwise, following a few Reddits would do the job (with some API to send emails).
What I would like even more is something that actually turns my social media into daily emails.
> This is pulling the content of the RSS feeds of several news sites into the context window of an LLM and then asking it to summarize news items into articles and fill in the blanks?
This is awful. It's cutting out any money going to the news agencies that go out there and write news. If they didn't exist, Kagi wouldn't work.
Given that Orion (which I repeatedly attempt to daily drive due to the dearth of browsers meeting my requirements right now on macos) is still full of bugs that hamper usability, and seems to introduce new ones with every update, I don't know why Kagi insists on overextending itself like this. They just started porting their broken browser to Linux, they're creating a maps app, all while they clearly do not have the manpower to finish the projects they've already started.
One of the best news sites (still running) that I use frequently is http://68k.news/ - it's sort of like this minus the AI summary and info part of the article.
It's just plain text web 1.0 page that uses some ranking algo to figure out the top stores of a given day across categories, and shows that headline and under it similar headlines across different news sources.
It used to pull in RSS from the sources so you could also read the articles in plaintext, but that broke a bit ago and the dev hasn't fixed it.
Regardless, I still find it a great site to quickly get up to speed on top stories of the day!
But also I really like (and pay for!) Kagi so happily support their own effort here.
Between this app (kagi) and the Harmony hacknernews client, I'm super happy if this is my only content consumption on the internet/smartphone. The kagi app just needs a black/oled theme please, and can we bump the aricles from 12 to 20 or 30? 12 is just a tiny bit shy.
There is almost no good reason to keep up with current events in a "news feed" style. I'd maybe like a feed that has a 1 month window summarizing any news cycle that survived 3 days. If it came and went in one cycle, then just don't bother about it. Most of the news is just propaganda anyway. I suppose it's wise to have a sense of the "current thing" so you don't put your foot in it with colleagues who are inhabiting a tighter timeline than you are, but other than that there doesn't seem to be many use cases for keeping tabs in a news feed. Maybe if you're in the business of disrupting/reinforcing people's OODA loops you might need to know some of this stuff, but otherwise it's just a self-own to keep up with the news.
Link to iOS App: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/kagi-news/id6748314243
Very skeptical that this would work for me. None of the topics that Kagi chooses to "cover" in their seven or so stories for the day resonates with what I'd want to read. That's exactly why we have feeds that you can tune to your tastes and so on. Getting rid of endless scrolling and such might be a good thing though.
Something similar that collects news from various sources, plus it adds social media context: https://truenorthnews.app/
Feedback (if someone reads it): offer an option to translate everything to English. For example, news from/about Russia are in Russian, and thus I can't meaningfully share them to non-Russians.
That's despite the appropriate HTTP header:
Accept-Language: en-US,en;q=0.5
I like 1440 (https://join1440.com) for this. Once a day daily email digest. I like the email format because I'm less likely to start clicking around compared to a web site, and it doesn't require a separate app.
I think it is human curated, but I'm not positive about that.
Thanks for providing RSS feeds for Kagi -- just added them all to https://usedigest.com so users can use this as a drop-in replacement for their news instead of adding various RSS feeds from other news outlets.
Awesome, i like it a lot!
Some UX friction i noticed: To get back to the homepage from an article, i have to click on the article headline. While this is elegant and you likely get used to it, once you know it, it's not exactly intuitive.
Just plugging my service, https://mosaique.info/. It only uses an LLM to generate a short summary, and other ML algorithms structure the information (comments from officials and experts, classification...).
I'm currently working on a major overhaul to provide more holistic context around news by better surfacing less-discussed events.
Happy paying Kagi subscriber here. Rock on, Kagi.
I’ve been using this for a few days now. I stumbled across it in the App Store last week.
I hoping this can fill a gap for me currently. I want something that will give me broad awareness of big news I should probably know about, that’s not a 24 hour firehose of news.
I like the once-per-day update and the relatively short list of stories. The jury is still out on how sticky it will be, in terms of being my go-to place for a daily update.
Nice idea, I’ve been toying around the idea of consuming news only once per day. But for me I think I want an actual newspaper with in depth articles rather than short news posts from online news.
i'm doing something like this, summarizing HN posts because most of the time when there's hundreds or thousands of comments, it's not possible to read everything and i feel like i'm missing something.
So far, i quite enjoy having a summary with bullet points.
For example, here's the summary of this discussion: https://extraakt.com/extraakts/kagi-s-daily-news-ritual-spar...
Because Google news was such a great idea. I’m enjoying Kagi but this isn’t it.
Looks like a decentralize and locally hosted version of https://particle.news
Given that this news is generated I have no idea why the default would be to be in the native language of the sources. And if that makes any sense I would need to be able to select multiple languages I want to read in because I can’t read all languages.
I really like the balance here. No "brand names" in the headline summaries, no imagery or videos on the homepage, summarize multiple sources. It's daily so no need to refresh.
I've been really enjoying Semafor's emails too, but their 2x a day is tough for me to keep up with. I'll try to get a habit of looking at Kagi News to stay informed.
I don't understand how this is 100% free, no subscriptions, no purchase, apparently no ads or tracking and yet I'm also the "customer" and not the product. What's the catch?
I’m probably online too much, but a lot of the news I see is from yesterday. Supposedly it just refreshed with today’s news, but does that really clear out anything older if some outlets publish their stories later than others? I would not describe some of this as "today's headlines"
I've been using Kagi search for a while now and frankly it's fantastic. Google looks like AOL to me now.
These guys are doing great work and this news product is exactly what I want... Once a day hit. What is happening in the world? As far as pmf goes they hit the mark for an old fart like me.
I'm not affiliated, but I've used https://www.memeorandum.com/ for more than a decade.
Gives me a good high-level view of the news. I'm a Kagi customer and I definitely don't want anything they do with the news.
It's funny how awkward the French version is.
- Parquet de Paris ouvre 24 enquêtes pour menaces
- Update: famille et experte ADN au procès Jubillar
- Intersyndicale appelle à la grève du 2 octobre
This won't be used by French speakers as is.
It actually seems nice. I realize Reddit is not a news source but it used to be a great way to see current events and get level-headed takes on those events. This approach could be a better non-biased* alternative.
* for now
I LOVE this. The app feels very clean, the data's presented beautifully, and it hasn't been enshittified yet. And hopefully never will, because I pay Kagi in hopes that they don't.
I feel this is what Apple News should've been. Instead it's just god-awful ad-filled mess of news articles. And the only reason I have it is because of Apple One. But it is a clearly neglected product.
I also pay for ground news but it hasn't met my expectations, mostly because there's a lot of redundancy with wire stories. Like it'll show 50 sources but they're all just regurgitating the same AP or Reuters article. So it skews the "bias"
I AM using it for a long time, its brilliant but as any ai can hallucinate. Joining 4 separate technical topics about 4 different companies and initiatives is funny but misleading. Wont go back though - HN+Kite is all I do.
This but let me choose over what period I want news summarised. Daily is too often, even week is (at least to me).
Let me open the app once a month and see a summary of what has happened over it.
Looks pretty good at first sight.
However, I set my feed up on the web app, seeing that it should sync on "all my devices".
Next, I installed the Android app, and mybe I missed something, but I don't see any way to connect to my Kagi account.
So much for syncing...
I'd like to install and try this, but I don't use Google Play and it's not in F-Droid. Wish they'd just make an APK available.
Mini feedback - it appears to report google news results as if from google and not the website in question (Wired in my case, the snapdragon x2 elite article).
Apart from that, it's really nice! Good job, kagi team!
I really like the once-a-day updates, makes it so that I can drop in and check on the news but not constantly refreshing for updates.
I liked Kagi, was paying for it for a few months, but $10 is just too much
Cool but how does it compare to something like subreddits? There are still biased moderators behind the scene just like subreddits. Seems to not have the upvoting/downvoting side of it which imo is crucial to democratize the entire thing.
I think upvoting/downvoting is a crucial aspect to news/information/knowledge. But we've been doing it with just numbers all along. Why not experiment with weights or more complex voting methods? Ex: my reputation is divided in categories - I'm more an expert in history then politics hence my vote towards historical subjects have more weights. Feels like that's the next big step for news. Instead of just another centralized aggregator?
No offense to the cool system and website though
I love everything that Kagi has put out. The Orion browser rocks (recently replaced Brave, good riddance) and my go-to chatbot today is the Kagi Assistant with Kimi K2 connected to the internet.
I tended towards Axios but lately it's gotten a bit paywalled and less informative. Can't wait to incorporate Kagi News into my daily workflow.
"Indonesia school collapse leaves 38 missing, 77 hurt" is categorized as "Disaster". I cannot see where to disable this category.
Big news junkie but I don't feel the need to buy into Kagi's ecosphere personally as a SearXNG user. The article touches on signal over noise and I have found two solutions that work for me as a news junkie:
News Minimalist [1] and Boring Report [2]. Both aggregate news and (IMO) most importantly provide links from multiple outlets for the same stories. Really made me notice the clickbait and allows me to be more selective in choosing reputable sources.
Both use AI, with the former ranking news based on importance, while the latter summarizes articles. (That doesn't feel useful for supporting journalism as a whole so I typically click through and read the articles unless I don't like the outlet reporting)
[1] https://www.newsminimalist.com/
[2] https://www.boringreport.org/app
It's good. And always happy to see SvelteKit in action.
This looks awesome, but there's absolutely no way I'm installing an app for this, sorry.
one quick little usability thing, clicking the logo on the web version doesn't bring me back to the main page
Is the future where we pay a premium for human generated content?
I doubt anything comes close to Perplexity News at the moment, its truly amazing.
I'm biased because I build my own RSS reader[0] and I feel that with this approach the thing I love the most about RSS, to follow small niche sources gets lost. That said, I think for big news it could be great.
[0] https://ivyreader.com
When I filter on Kirk, I get No Results Found - seems legit.
I've been using this since the beta launch, and I really like it. They're spot on about news being broken.
That said, I do think the service could be improved. Often the summary is a very short blurb that forces me to go to one of the original sites for the content, and hopefully land on one that is not obnoxious to use, which kind of defeats the purpose. The event timeline sounds interesting, but when it essentially shows 2 or 3 events that are obvious from the context, it's not so useful in practice. I always skip the "Quick questions" section, since it reads like an elementary school report, and the questions are really basic. How about letting me ask the questions I want?
Also:
> We don’t scrape content from websites. Instead, we use publicly available RSS feeds that publishers choose to provide.
I think this is a mistake. Most publishers are hostile to RSS and often don't offer it. Scraping is, unfortunately, a requirement if you want to consume public content on your own terms, which is the entire point of this service. Besides, scraping is how all search engines generate their index, so as long as the bot is well behaved and doesn't hammer the site, follows robots.txt or perhaps even bends the rules a bit, it should be fine. I would rather Kagi wasn't so respectful of publishers' wishes, if that would allow them to offer a better service. I understand if they want to avoid getting in trouble with publishers, but the alternative would be better for their users.
Similar to ground.news or thenewpaper.co ?
Every single news aggregation services promises the same "signal over noise" and "just the facts". I'm so numb from hearing that, that I don't believe it anymore.
I do however like the fact that Kagi only pushes _once_ a day. Drinking from the firehose is physically and mentally exhausting. Even daily feels like too much these days other than a quick check to make sure the world didn't implode or the Rapture happened while I was busy trying to get CC to behave.
Nice design. I like the "today in history" feature
Lately I've been working toward less app time and more boredom https://youtu.be/orQKfIXMiA8?si=ZyvxO0SFjoGGHbdK ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ works wonders
that "Kagi News" is at the top of "Hacker News" speaks volumes about the state of the "hacker"
The UI looks neat, can't wait to try this out
I'd like to pay Kagi if I can submit my feeds and the insights from them, as I see from the portal now it's not that interesting...
Any payments to journalists and news sites?
I love Kagi!
This rocks. I'm gonna start looking at it instead of NYTimes.
What is the business model / exit strategy for Kagi's founders and investors? What is the news curation process and its relation to the public interest?
Are these articulated in a manner which gives stakeholders (investors, users, and staff) assurances and standing?
...
What are competitors and collaborators in this space? Semafor seems to have a similar product, what are the differentiators and/or collaboration opportunities?
...
Netflix was subscription only, till it was "pay to get rid of ads". Then there is the whole business of profiling customer interest, etc.
We have product labeling for food, why not web services?
love love love how it doesn't infinite scroll!!!
>News is broken. We all know it, but we’ve somehow accepted it as inevitable.
News is broken because journalism is no longer a viable career path. No amount of RSS aggregators will fix that.
I never found the lowest most common denominator news "curation" to be at all interesting, let alone algorithmically driven ones. The issue with news has nothing to do with curation of mainstream media. There is very little value in reading a state department or law enforcement press release summarized by some overworked stenographer/journalist. Or some NGO's push to drive some nondescript narrative uncritically parroted. Or some SEO driven click bait or tragedy porn.
If you wanted to fix the news you'd begin by critically curating mainstream news and throwing 80% of it in the trash, then you'd add 80% of material and critical analysis back to the 20% that had none of that.
Am I the only one thinking that "Cagey News" sounds like anti-marketing?
I'm just happy to be able to entirely remove topics like sports. Google News no longer lets you do this, and gleefully pushes topics on me even when I religiously press "Show fewer stories like this"; it is infuriating. No I do not care about celebrities or football; stop insisting that I do!
Another one you can check out is one I have made for myself and used by friends [1], although only tech news. It also uses more than 100 RSS feeds to aggregate the top 10 news every few hours. Also has tags that can be used to read topic related news.
[1] https://embit.ca
"Community-driven sources: Our news sources are open source and community-curated through our public GitHub repository. Anyone can propose additions, flag problems, or suggest improvements."
This sounds like it's going to be a massive headache. Activists with nothing to do all day will be all over this, for their chance to try to have influence over what other people read.
One thing I found working on a startup which touched on the political sphere is people don't want curated lists imposed on them, they want to impose their curated lists on other people.
I like that it only provides the list once a day (I do think that's a clever feature), but the inability to influence bias seems like a mistake, especially since the sources already seem to follow a bias.
Looks like yet another aggregator that will send almost no referral traffic to the folks who actually put labor into writing.
Parasitic by definition.
And embracing the news from nowhere perspective.
So both a parasite and boring at the same time.
I wish more tech folks who want to "fix the news" would learn from Gabe Rivera's Techmeme, Memeorandum, and Mediagazer.
He's done aggregation right for 20 years
sites like these make me realize that i’m not all that interested in “news”, which might be a personal fault, but also makes you wonder what all the other “”news”” sites have been doing to capture my attention...
Don't want to sound too contrarian, but I feel like having LLMs involved with the process of disseminating news is a bit dystopian.
This is honestly very disappointing. Not using LLMs, but the complete lack of transparency about their usage. You can already see in the repository issues related to hallucinations[^1]. This is _fine_, but not if you seem to obscure the fact that these can be very, very wrong. This seems to only be mentioned in the very brief loading screen and at the bottom of the about page[^2]. Also, apparently many of the "core RSS feeds" are just... reddit[^3]???
For me, this is only useful as a curated list of news feeds (and subreddits I guess), but nothing more.
[1]: https://github.com/kagisearch/kite-public/issues/97#issuecom...
[2]: https://kite.kagi.com/about
[3]: https://github.com/kagisearch/kite-public/blob/main/core_fee...
Ground offers a paid service that summarizes a broad range of sources and intentionally helps you escape your filter bubble, https://ground.news/.
Feels good to be free from Google, even if it costs money.
I would love to replace google/apple news, but publishing once daily doesn't work for me.
Is this an annoucement or just a promotion?
Bunch of discussion here 3 months ago? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44518473
This doesn’t really seem to touch on the problem I have with news, which is that it is all doom and gloom, FUD and outrage. The headlines I saw:
Trump, Congress deadlock as shutdown deadline nears
Taliban cuts internet nationwide, flights grounded in Afghanistan
Indonesia school collapse leaves 38 missing, 77 hurt
YouTube settles Trump suspension lawsuit for $24.5m
German court jails AfD aide for China spying
US deports 120 Iranians after deal
Russian drone strike kills family of four
Is this really what I need to know in the world? Am I saying “informed”? This is not helping the anxiety from reading news described in the article. This is not good for people.
or you could read the new york times
I think a fundamental issue with news is that it doesn't try to push people to have a more correct mental model of the world.
Some things that could change that:
- Deep fact checking. Community Notes on twitter do a better job at this than any other system I've seen. The reason it doesn't really work in practice is that the stream of misinformation and confusion is orders of magnitude larger than the Community Notes community. A news app should not have that scalability issue.
- Follow up. If I read something that later turns out to be false I need to be notified of that. This unfortunately requires that the app track what I have read.
- Context. If you have a news article about a stabbing, it sounds like stabbings are up. The context that they are going up or down statistically is extremely relevant. The lack of context can turn a tiny truth into a bigger lie.
- Deep confusion analysis. Figuring out where people are confused statistically and focusing on trying to manage that misinformation gap is not something that is dealt with at all. I would like to become LESS confused by information sources not more.
Trump just said we should use the military on American cities...and it's not reported in Kagi news. That's a showstopper for me.
If I was giving my money to Kagi I'd be mad that they invest it in bullshit side products like this instead of search.
It seems like all their recent releases are just following into the AI hype.
Another russian disinfo laundering service.
How did this get so many upvotes? Did I wake up in 2004?
RSS is a strange choice in 2025. As a search engine they are in the position to extract things from web pages themselves. They already need this capability in order to properly rank the page.
If you don't need/like links there is https://rawdiary.com/