Laravel has taught me many things about maintainability, but it's mostly "don't write code like Laravel". My favorite is how cache tagging was broken in Laravel, and there was a complete PR presented to fix it, but Taylor just summarily closed the PR and removed all mention of cache tagging from the documentation instead.
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kiririn
Still maintaining a Laravel 3 project. Barely made it 2 years before maintainability became a nightmare and the only upgrade path was complete rewrite. Projects written without an opinionated framework easily sail past 10 years of comfy maintainability
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iamcreasy
It was interesting to hear that Laravel, Drupal, Wordpress and Symfony communities do not mesh. I wonder why.
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conradfr
Lesson 1: use Symfony components
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watt
Very poor audio quality, not listenable. Why do folks insist screaming into microphone and overloading the recording where it just nasty clipping?
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todotask2
I started with a small prototype, a simple site using L6, and realized there were several issues with the idea. Years later, in 2019, I worked with Astro, which taught me a lot about maintainability and I found they got it right.
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coldtea
"What 14 years of Sendmail told me about security"
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mooreds
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phplovesong
Laravel is using a outdated MVC model, its slow as hell and finally its purpose is basically to put lipstick on what is php.
Made a transcript generated by whisper, for us who likes reading rather than listening :) Also added a summary by GPT 5 Pro for the lazies out there: https://gist.github.com/victorb/ef2550a55860023b9179dc835775...
Laravel has taught me many things about maintainability, but it's mostly "don't write code like Laravel". My favorite is how cache tagging was broken in Laravel, and there was a complete PR presented to fix it, but Taylor just summarily closed the PR and removed all mention of cache tagging from the documentation instead.
Still maintaining a Laravel 3 project. Barely made it 2 years before maintainability became a nightmare and the only upgrade path was complete rewrite. Projects written without an opinionated framework easily sail past 10 years of comfy maintainability
It was interesting to hear that Laravel, Drupal, Wordpress and Symfony communities do not mesh. I wonder why.
Lesson 1: use Symfony components
Very poor audio quality, not listenable. Why do folks insist screaming into microphone and overloading the recording where it just nasty clipping?
I started with a small prototype, a simple site using L6, and realized there were several issues with the idea. Years later, in 2019, I worked with Astro, which taught me a lot about maintainability and I found they got it right.
"What 14 years of Sendmail told me about security"
[audio]
Laravel is using a outdated MVC model, its slow as hell and finally its purpose is basically to put lipstick on what is php.